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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Pole spacing

avsalesman

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Jan 25th, 2018 12:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi can anyone tell me whether the pole pieces are spaced progressively further apart (Neck to bridge) on any custom shop Strat sets?

Unless I'm mistaken I believe that (at least on Fat 50's) they seem to all be spaced the same. This is not ideal.

I've seen some single coil brands that compensate by having the pole's further apart on the bridge PUP meaning the string sits squarley over it's corresponding pole resulting in better alignment.

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Jan 25th, 2018 02:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

I wouldn't worry about it. The magnetic field extends well beyond the polepiece and any tiny differences because of lateral spacing on strats aren't going to noticeable, imho & in my experience.

On my Epiphone Sheraton I have a P90 in the bridge position where the poles align under the bass E and become progressively more spread out towards the top E to the extent that the top E string sits about 1/64" inch away from the edge of the pole. The pole height on the top E is raised slightly but only similar to what you would see in a strat with a stagger.

Do you hear a difference?

Edit to add: that's 1/64" from the edge of the pole while still being over it, not off it.

(This message was last edited by vomer at 08:25 PM, Jan 25th, 2018)

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Jan 25th, 2018 05:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

What vomer said. It’s only a visual thing. The coil and magnets create a field that radiates out.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 07:28 AM, Jan 25th, 2018)

Te 52

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Jan 25th, 2018 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

^ What they said. The magnetic field around a pickup is very "cloud-like."

I've actually done a controlled experiment where I moved a pickup sideways in stages and measured output amplitude. You have to get the pole pieces *way* off center before there is a perceptible drop in volume.

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Jan 25th, 2018 09:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

The only common variation in pickup pole spacing is the difference between Gibson and Fender E-to-E string spacing. Most pickup makers accommodate this.

For instance, Seymore Duncan calls their "F-spaced" humbucking pickups Trembuckers.

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Feb 2nd, 2018 09:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

One of the Teles I built last year is an HH PU configuration. I used a pair of vintage Gibson spaced DiMarzio buckers that I've had since the 80s that were made in the 70s. Yeah, the spacing is off on the bridge a bit but it works just fine. No loss of gain on either E string and the tone is just outstanding.

This one right here

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Feb 2nd, 2018 02:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's a two string!!!

Trend-setter!

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Feb 3rd, 2018 12:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

That's a gorgeous guitar, Hammond. Very nice work.

RicOkc

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Feb 6th, 2018 11:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

The "Hot Noiseless" sets the bridge pickup is spaced wider than the neck & middle pickups.

Achase4u

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Feb 8th, 2018 09:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

"The only common variation in pickup pole spacing is the difference between Gibson and Fender E-to-E string spacing. Most pickup makers accommodate this.

For instance, Seymore Duncan calls their "F-spaced" humbucking pickups Trembuckers."

This is correct.

Now, believe it or not, Fender was onto this whole "string-spacing-jazz" way back at the inception of the Telecaster(Broadcaster)
The original design neck pickup has a pole spacing that is much narrower than the bridge pickup. Neat!

But then, they came out with the Strat in 1954 and killed the different spacings, and actually, the different design(and thusly the differ dies) altogether. Only one die set for all the pickups in the guitar is much more cost effective.

Now we have lasers, so it's not as big a deal.

They are close enough on a Strat to work.

The problem is, what if it's modern 2 and 1/16" spacing on the Strat? Or 2 and 7/32" vintage? You'd have to make 6 different spacings of pickups to accomodate. Then keep track of who's ordering what etc etc. The pick material has more effect on the tone in the end, IMO.

57hbcrs/57ri

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Feb 23rd, 2018 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Just to add to the above...Some of the best h-buckers in my Gibson's(to my ears, are pole spaced the same for bridge and neck. And, all of the Holy Grail PAF Buckers from the late 50's are the same spacing, for neck and bridge.

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