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windmill
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Feb 3rd, 2018 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have never used one.

It's a pre-amp isn't it ?

Am I able to plug it into the front of my amp ?

Can I use it like a pedal ?

If it's a pre-amp do I need a separate power amp ?

Does it just go directly to the board or PA ?

Now I'm playing bass regularly I'm starting to think of the options to improve my sound,(without buying another bass).

Any answers will be appreciated.

Ta :)

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Feb 3rd, 2018 08:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a pre-amp isn't it ? Not exactly.

Am I able to plug it into the front of my amp ? Yes

Can I use it like a pedal ? Yes

If it's a pre-amp do I need a separate power amp ? Yes

Does it just go directly to the board or PA ? You can run it to the amp via phone plug out and the XLR out to the board or PA.

Jeff Scott

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Feb 3rd, 2018 08:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" What does the Tech 21 Sanamp bass driver actually do ?"

It suck the mids out of a bass' tone. Personally, Id go with a VT Bass or a GT2 if you want a Tech21 pedal that works great for bass.

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Feb 3rd, 2018 09:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have run my SansAmp between the bass and mixer then into the powered PA cabinets.

For that matter, I have used the SansAmp direct into the powered PA cabinet for a couple of rehearsals with acoustic guitars, and unamplified vocals. (Cajon for percussion.)

I have also placed my SansAmp between my bass and my Ampeg bass amp, into my bass cabinet.

And I have used my SansAmp between my bass and a Gallien Krueger GX-5 and a 4x10 bass cabinet.

I don't see how you wound lot consider it as a preamp when the description on Musician's Friend specifically described it thus:

"The Tech 21 SansAmp Para Driver DI Instrument Preamp Pedal..."

You can bypass the internal preamp and tone controls and simply use it as a direct input box...or you can use it as a preamp and then via the internal DI function into the PA system's mixer or use it without any other mixer or EQ section and simply use the internal control features directly into a power amp and then the speaker cabinet.

However, right now, I am digging my bass thru my Ampeg PF350 and one of my small, lightweight bass cabinets...or direct into the mixer.

ADDED for what it might be worth...

I only use the SansAmp for smaller events...bigger events I will use the line out on my bass amp into the PA.

WHY SansAmp and not another brand name? Well, about 10 years ago, a friend needed some cash and he had a SansAmp. About 15 minutes later, he had $100 in his pocket and I had a SansAmp in my jacket pocket. I don't really use it "that" much, but it is the only one I own and I am satisfied when it is the right tool.

(This message was last edited by Tony Wright at 11:45 PM, Feb 3rd, 2018)

windmill
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Feb 4th, 2018 03:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks everyone for your replies

:)

Tony Wright
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Feb 5th, 2018 06:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just reread what I wrote at the end...and to be more accurate....

I only use the Sans Amp is when I do not take any bass amp...small or large gigs.

If it is a house party for 20 people, one PA speaker with a small mixer for acoustic electric guitar, electric bass and two vocal mics. Smaller footprint in the living room or back patio and adequate tone from the SansAmp settings than just the PA mixer.

OR a Blues Festival where backline is provided, I take the Sans Amp to tweak the sound I hear closer to my "normal sound".

rwb

Canada

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Feb 5th, 2018 01:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I sometimes use one to simply have a close-at-hand tone control plus a way to introduce "grit" into my otherwise (almost overly) clean signal on my Quilter Bass Block. I very much like the mid and high controls, plus the "character" control can do interesting things to the response.


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Feb 5th, 2018 02:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I haven't tried the SansAmp, but do use a device which may be similar to expand my tonal palette. Note that mine is an older version than what is currently offered on the market. I got it used and am happy with what it does.

Hartke Bass Attack VXL Tone Shaper (version1):

Taildragger
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Feb 5th, 2018 02:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another, perhaps more instructive...

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dg27

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Feb 5th, 2018 06:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got my SansAmp in 2003 and never leave home without it. I think it's great for lots of applications.

I've used it between my bass and an amp (like a pedal), as well as as a DI box.

Maybe this is a subjective thing, but I've never experienced a loss of mids.

Currently I use it for recording without an amp. I run one line out of the Tech 21 that's treated with my preferred settings and one line that's dry. Each gets its own track in my DAW and I find that by blending the two I always get what I want.

(This message was last edited by dg27 at 08:06 PM, Feb 5th, 2018)

windmill
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Feb 6th, 2018 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

thanks again everyone

That has widened my search :)

L. Nedmundo

Philadelphia

Feb 8th, 2018 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't have one, but at an open mic night a few years ago, the house had me go through a SansAmp Bass Driver Deluxe run straight into the PA. It sounded fantastic, and I immediately understood why some players take this approach whenever possible, which for me would mean knowing I'd have decent monitors.

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Feb 8th, 2018 09:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one of the orgininal BDDIs (without all the extra level pad switches). It mostly stays in my bag as a spare DI in case I have amp problems.

It does indeed create a gorgeous, beefy, scooped bedroom tone. However, I like a low mid presence (I play a precision w/ flats). With the blend knob all the way up, it does suck out too much mid for my taste when playing live. I have learned that for me, having the blend set no higher than 12 o'clock is all I want or need. Besides the scoop, I also find it a little noisy if you turn things up too high.

I also agree with Tony Wright that the Ampeg pf-350 is a great sounding amp. It nails the same tone as the BDDI. I have a pf-350 and a pf-500 and I like the sound of the 350 better. The EQ frequencies are different between the two. I think that may be some of it. I only wish the 350 had the direct out flexibility (level, pre/post, ground lift) that the 500 has.


BonkersBass

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Feb 8th, 2018 11:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It suck the mids out of a bass' tone. "

Actually, the current version (V2) has a midrange control and a frequency shift button. The control is active so you can boost or cut mids to your heart's content.

I have three of these. One of them is always in my signal chain. Not for everyone, and there are certainly other alternatives out there that are similar (MXR M-80 comes to mind). I just prefer the original.

rwb

Canada

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Feb 10th, 2018 01:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just checked... mine is the older "VT Bass" (not a DI) - it does anything but "suck the mids out" in fact the mids and highs need to be slightly de-emphasized, and the "character" control is great for adding a bit of edge....

Jeff Scott

On a spinning rock

Feb 10th, 2018 07:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am referring to the original SABBDI regarding sucked mids.

BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
Feb 15th, 2018 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I am referring to the original SABBDI regarding sucked mids."

I've heard that opinion regarding the original SABDDI on several occasions, and I would agree that with the tone (bass and treble) controls set flat. it does present a somewhat scooped mids type tone.

I personally have not found that to be an issue, but my ears are different than anybody elses. My amps typically have a midrange control that can be used to restore more mids to my tone when it sounds a bit short, or to achieve a certain tone.

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