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Leftee
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Apr 3rd, 2018 05:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

I'm getting the itch to change up my Warmoth Strat build from about 5 years ago. It's got an alder body and maple neck. I finished the guitar with a couple coats of Tung Oil.

I'd like to paint the body. What do I need to do to the existing Tung Oil finish? Can I even paint over Tung Oil? Or does it need to be sanded completely away?

Is this even a good idea?

It is a really nice piece of Alder. Tight grain. Very smooth right now.

Also thinking about painting the face of the headstock - so the same would apply there. Neck is tung oiled as well.

wrnchbndr

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Apr 3rd, 2018 07:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't have a clue about this one.

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Apr 3rd, 2018 08:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

Tung oil is a wiping varnish; it has solvents and driers in the formula, so it hardens like a typical poly coating.

Here's how to do it.

1. Wipe down the wood with mineral spirits.

2. Lightly dry sand it with 320 grit paper.

3. Wash your hands.

4. Vacuum the surface with a brush on the end of the hose.

5. Hang the body up or screw it to s stick and vacuum it again.

6. Apply 3-4 light coats of Zinsser Bulls Eye shellac, with dry time between coats.

7. You're ready for color coats of your choice.



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Apr 4th, 2018 02:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

I saw this post earlier and was going to say shellac, but figured The Goo had this one :^)

In full sequential fashion too!


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Apr 4th, 2018 04:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

We don't know if he used "tung oil" or actual 100% tung oil. If it's the former, like Formby's (contains no actual tung oil) then you're just dealing with urethane, no?

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Apr 4th, 2018 05:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks!

I still have the can. I'll look.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 07:42 AM, Apr 4th, 2018)

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Apr 4th, 2018 07:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

It is Formby's. It says it has tung oil and "other ingredients."

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Apr 4th, 2018 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

You're good!

You can apply any finish over shellac--including nitrocellulose lacquer.

It may help the color coats to adhere (depending on the formula) if you first do a final light sanding of the shellac with 320 or 400 to knock the gloss off. It's probably best to do this anyway.

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Apr 4th, 2018 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks! This doesn’t seem too bad a process. I’ll probably take it on.

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Buena Buena
Apr 4th, 2018 03:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

You can also use 3M Scotchbrite as your final step (instead of sandpaper) to de-gloss the shellac. Use light pressure and it goes quickly.

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Apr 17th, 2018 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

Imma gonna do this. Got the stuff.

Still not sure what color, though. The guitar currently has a mint green PG. I'm not opposed to changing said PG.

What do you guys suggest?

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Apr 17th, 2018 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Since 8 year old daughter got into Virtual Guitar Builder I've had a hankering for a Candy Tangerine strat, the more orange the better. YMMV :-)

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Apr 17th, 2018 11:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

I briefly toyed with that idea a while ago. I didn't get far (in my mind).

Well, I just ordered a pickguard. Vintage pearl (Warmoth) with cream pickup covers. Body is going to be Cobalt Blue Metallic.

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Apr 17th, 2018 11:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

If it's that green Strat with gold hardware, that candied orange tangerine would look awesome!
Gold hardware and brilliant colors go together so nicely.
My Deluxe 3 tone Strat with gold hardware and an ash body just pops! I added the Wilkinson bridge with the staggered steel block and Lace Hot Gold's and that guitar took on a whole new personality that has taken that guitar to be my number one Strat to play. The original Fender Vintage Noiseless pickups with the ash body were just too bright and wanted to mellow out the tone but also wanted it to gain more mid presence without any extra noise while using distortion and being under lighting, and this combination worked out nicely. I still haven't tried the Fender Hot Noiseless pickups yet, but have another Strat that I would like to try those out with.
Between stage lighting and effects, I need my guitars not to add to the noise floor.
But Yes, a brilliant color (Orange Tangerine) with gold hardware are just sweet and really compliment each other!

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Buena Buena
Apr 17th, 2018 11:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

Warmoth is 100% top quality stuff.

Huge fan of those guys.

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Apr 17th, 2018 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's

this'un

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Buena Buena
Apr 17th, 2018 12:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

That Strat has a certain pimped-out 1970's je ne sais quoi!

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Apr 17th, 2018 12:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Cobalt Blue Metallic."

Oh yes, that should work nicely.



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Apr 17th, 2018 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

I like big headstocks... I cannot lie.

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Apr 21st, 2018 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm underway. I'm up to letting the first coat of shellac dry.

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