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FDP Forum / Miscellaneous and Non-Fender Topics / Mini-pedals from the same manufacturer?

Surfinboy
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Apr 22nd, 2018 08:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've been looking at a few mini-size chorus pedals—Mooer, Eno, Joyo, Xvive, etc.—and they all look suspiciously similar. Virtually identical size and controls. I've heard rumblings that a lot of them are identical, made by the same Chinese manufacturer—just branded differently. Is this true? Is there a difference in quality of components, housing, etc?

Mick Reid
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Apr 23rd, 2018 02:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's a difficult question to answer with a simple yes or no.

From what I've seen (first hand) and read online, there are very strong similarities as well as subtle differences amongst the brands you listed. I will also mention Donner, as they are very popular budget clone brand and topic of discussion. (debate?)

I would go so far as to say that Mooer and Donner would be likely candidates for same/same but different branding (I own some of both).
However there is also a lot of online discussion about varying op-amps, clock IC's and other components between these two "brands" as well. AFAIK Eno *could* also be in that group, but again, people have pointed out differences there too.

To confuse things even further, here's an example:
I have a Mooer Yellow Comp compressor *and* a Donner Ultimate Compressor.
Same controls & layout. Different colour enclosure but, for all intents & purposes and reports, the same pedal.
If I set the controls identically, there is a noticeable difference in tone, but with some adjustments, I can get them to sound the same as each other.

In My Opinion: (based on personal experience)
Joyo, definitely not the same as Mooer.
Xvive, may be similar but probably not the same as Mooer.

I think the only way to definitively answer your question is if someone took the time to map out each circuit and compare them. TMK, no one has invested the time and energy to do so because in the end, it probably doesn't matter.
If a pedal (cheap clone or real deal) sounds good to *your* ears... that's all that matters.

I will add that the Mooer pedals I have sound great. They're not as cheap as they used to be when they first hit the market. As they grew in popularity, their prices increased as well.


Pinetree
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Apr 23rd, 2018 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

Good points from Mick.


At present, I'm very happy with my Wampler pedals, and they definitely deserve a look.

Leftee
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Apr 23rd, 2018 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

I dabbled in mini-pedals a little. I agree with Mick. I wouldn't be surprised if Mooer and Donner are the same under the hood.

I've drifted off the format. The only mini pedal I fell in love with was the Xotic SL Drive. The others, meh.

I do have a TCE Flashback mini, but that's a different animal. It's not a knock-off. It's a tad bigger than the typical mini size as well.

I've been on a TC Electronic binge lately.

DanL

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May 6th, 2018 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's a valid question. It's possible some might the same.

For years I would laugh at the wee mini pedals. Yes I scoffed at the idea of putting a mini on either of my precious boards. Then I tried one. Now I have these mini-me's on my boards:

Xotic SP compressor
TC Elec Flashback Mini
Malekko Tremolo
XVive Golden Brownie Distortion
TC Electronic Ditto Mini Looper
TC Electronic Polytune2 mini tuner.

All GREAT sounding pedals! I liked the Polytune2 so much I bought one for both of my pedal boards. The mini's have come a long way.




Surfinboy
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May 12th, 2018 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

The Xotic mini-pedals are in a class by themselves—the quality is great, and I don't consider them susceptible to knock-offs disguised in cheap components and housing. I've got the SP compressor too and it's amazing. I also picked up the TC mini delay and reverb pedals - very happy with them, and the Toneprint technology is pure sorcery!

Leftee
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May 12th, 2018 07:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

I agree. The Xotic SL Drive I have is excellent.

I’ve also got the TCE mini Hall of Fame and Flashback. Both are nice scaled back versions of the originals.

jay1vinton

Hawaii, USA

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May 21st, 2018 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hotone has finally engineered out all their issues with their ultra mini pedals. I may take a second look after I was let down by the Wally Looper...

Deacon Blues

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May 31st, 2018 01:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've been there and now have only one mini on the board the (TC Polytune). I was an early adopter and some of the early stuff left a lot to be desired. Some were extremely noisy, others just didn't sound good.
I should probably revisit the format.

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