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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / MIM Strat Question

Leftee
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May 9th, 2018 10:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

I found a sweet MIM Strat in a local shop. CAR metallic (I think) with a rosewood board. Great looking guitar and plays nice. They have the old price of $499 on it and they’re offering 10% off now too, but I bet I could do a little better. It’s had a few birthdays there.

Any ways...

The string tree is screwed right to the headstock. No spacer under it. I looked at some other Fenders and found the same.

What the heck is that about?

Pinetree
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May 9th, 2018 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's about not having a spacer.




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May 9th, 2018 11:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

Aren't you funny.

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May 9th, 2018 11:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

I guess Mexico doesn't have any of them.

Leftee
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May 9th, 2018 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

Was this thing? I’d never seen it before.

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May 9th, 2018 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have taken the spacers off of some of my strats to change the angle slightly and have nary a better result. So then it is an optics thing that I either like or dislike.

I have had good luck with staggering but most people say it does not work. I do not like trees and if I am parting new stuff to build I use staggered.

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May 9th, 2018 01:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

Spacers, the final frontier.

Leftee
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May 9th, 2018 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

The ones I saw the trees were screwed almost right into the wood. Way low.

To be clear, there were several this way. String trees screwed down to the headstocks. Severe string angle over the nut on the B&E strings.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 04:24 PM, May 9th, 2018)

Pinetree
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May 9th, 2018 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a cost-cutting measure.


And yeah, I am funny. Not to mention Leftee had it coming.



Leftee
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May 9th, 2018 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

I dish it out.

I take it.

Mick Reid
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May 9th, 2018 04:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, my last few MIM's were spacer-less.
I would agree that it is probably a cost-saving/time-saving measure.

I always use spacers and sometimes have used different heights if using 2.
I haven't clue if it makes any difference (spacer vs no spacer) in performance, but it "looks" better to me. I suppose location is more important than height as long as the break angle is right.

However I think it is just a little easier when doing string changes with the spacer on there.


Leftee
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May 9th, 2018 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

But the tree screwed down almost flush with the headstock? That was new to me.

Pinetree
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May 9th, 2018 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've seen it a few times.


The ball end of a string might make a functional spacer.


I have one of these on my one Tele, but bought it back when they were $5.

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May 9th, 2018 08:40 PM   Edit   Profile  

The ball ends of bass strings work great as string tree spacers.

I’ve seen older Fenders (NOS) with no spacers too. I think it’s not a model-specific...non-feature.

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May 9th, 2018 09:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

My 62 reissue Strat has no riser under the string tree for the E/B string. On the JV Strat, it does. On my MIM Deluxe Strat, I put on the gold American style string trees and they have a built in riser that looks like a block with stationary bars, on which the string glides under. They were a smidgen high and ground the base of them to create a better downward pull on the string to prevent a slight buzz/rattle at the nut. That guitar did have the spacer under the string trees. It created a sleek look!
As mentioned earlier, I have never seen any consistency on the Strat production models and use them as is with a dab of Nut Sauce applied to string before slipping the strings under the trees and find this to be a benefit to tuning stability.

Mick Reid
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May 9th, 2018 09:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

"But the tree screwed down almost flush with the headstock? That was new to me."

Yep. Had me scratching my head first time I saw it too.


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May 10th, 2018 03:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

My CP Jag has one, it's the only Fender thing in reach that'd have one.

I never thought about.

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