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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Extracting leaked and dried AA battery from Taylor acoustic - adivce ?

hotblooze

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May 13th, 2018 10:07 PM   Edit   Profile  

A high value Taylor acoustic was brought to me to help extract the inner battery which has leaked and dried over some years.

The battery cavity accepts 2 AA bateries end-to-end in a cylindrical cavity near the end pin. The first battery needed a slight thumping to take out but the second refused to budge. I have not tried drilling it yet which will be my last option.

Any less aggressive solutions ?

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May 13th, 2018 10:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

An old toothbrush, baking soda and water.



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May 14th, 2018 04:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

I remove the entire unit from the guitar and then engage on battery removal.

Batteries often swell and get jammed up in there.

Keep all liquids from puddling inside an acoustic guitar; it can stain the wood and sometimes even show through the exterior's finish.

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May 14th, 2018 06:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

I agree - pulling the entire assembly is the prudent thing. It will likely need to be replaced anyways.

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May 14th, 2018 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

Call Taylor and get a replacement part

Pinetree
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May 14th, 2018 11:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

I did some poking around last night and the two in line battery holders are hard to find.



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May 14th, 2018 12:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

The in-line battery compartment Taylor uses is a proprietary hardware item. That's why Mark suggested calling Taylor for the part.

Pinetree
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May 14th, 2018 12:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I checked the Taylor website.

No joy.

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May 14th, 2018 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

You gotta call 'em. Hopefully they're more responsive than Gibson [eye roll].

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May 14th, 2018 01:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Being a Taylor guy I know a little about the evolution of the ES system. I've owned all of the below.

Try to remove the battery holder from the guitar before going into drill and pull mode if you haven't already.

The AA battery unit is called ES1.1 and to the best of my knowledge it is no longer supported by Taylor. ES1.2 used the same body sensors but a 9 volt main board and jack assy. Then came ES1.3 which eliminated the two body sensor switches and has only a phase switch.

The ES1.1 in no longer supported as complaints where many about battery rattle and a lack of connection at times.

Unfortunately unless you can find used parts on ebay a Taylor silver or higher level dealer may have to convert this thing to A higher version of ES, maybe even ES2. (I don't like ES2)

There are two screws on the 9V systems that hold the battery/jack/strap button assy into the guitar. These aree visable when you look closely after removing the battery holder. If you have no sign of these screws after removing the 3V battery cover access must be from the inside. Putting a smart phone on video mode and looking inside would then be the best was to find the retainers short of using a video bore scope.

I'd call Taylor service and ask some questions as well. Those folks are pretty nice and very helpful. Historically they been very good to original owners with failed ES systems like repairs for cost of parts only. The kicker hear is that the failure was caused by battery leakage.

It may, in the worst case if the pieces will not clean up, need to update the guitar to ES2.

Good luck!

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May 14th, 2018 02:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

I had the dreaded battery rattle in my 2007 Taylor. I solved it by wrapping a 3" x 3" Post It note around the middle of 'em, end to end, and sliding them in.

That fix became the factory-recommended remedy :0/

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May 14th, 2018 03:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

"That fix became the factory-recommended remedy"

Yes, Taylor has since referred to this as the "Peegoo Post-it Method".

It's in they're user manual in the 'Troubleshooting' section.

hotblooze

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May 14th, 2018 09:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hammond101 and everyone.

Thanks for your posts. Great help. I will probably first try a mini scalpel and a sharp nose forceps first to see if I can loosen the battery and shake it out. If out, I will use a long cotton swab to clean the inside of the battery clip.

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May 15th, 2018 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I had the dreaded battery rattle in my 2007 Taylor."

Interesting, It must have been a very early one. I own a an 810ce and 814ce both from 2007 and the have ES1.2 with the 9 volt. I owned a 2005 612ce that had the AA batt set up. I never had an issue but I did increase the spring tension on the batts a bit.

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May 15th, 2018 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, it's an early '07 814 CE.

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May 15th, 2018 10:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

DP! What th'?

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 12:11 PM, May 15th, 2018)

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May 18th, 2018 02:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey HB, did you get the battery out of the Taylor?

hotblooze

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May 19th, 2018 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hammond101, yes I managed to extract the battery out. I used a long and slim sharp-tipped tweezer to access the stuck battery and tap the surface lightly to make 2 indentations so the tip can grab it. I shaked and turned it to loosen the battery suffieiently enough to pop it out. Now it's all good.

Thanks for your concern.

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