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TheProfessor
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May 16th, 2018 05:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi guys.

I hadn't realized that a cable could make *such* a difference in noise/buzz until recently.

Does anybody have a suggestion for a quiet 10-12' cable available with dual 90 degree plugs?

Thanks!

Sharkie
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May 16th, 2018 05:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve had good luck with Planet Waves cables. Quiet, bullet proof and economical.

Pinetree
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May 16th, 2018 05:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

Disclaimer - I make my own.


Live Wires are quite nice, as are D'Addario.



I've taken apart a Monster Cable that belonged to a friend (I don't own any), and can honestly say that they're well made. Plus a "Limited Lifetime Warranty". Rumor is the Guitar Center will replace them. 90 to 90 are a bit difficult to find, though.


Avoid George L. instrument cables, as they're microphonic (in my ever-so-humble opinion).



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May 16th, 2018 07:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

Agreed. George L's are all show and no go.

Live Wires, Hosa, Whirlwind and Belden (go with metal plug bodies--not plastic) are all good brands.

Most molded plastic plugs are not shielded. With metal types, the body is the shield.

Leftee
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May 16th, 2018 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

I didn't know George L's were still around.

Pinetree
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May 16th, 2018 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yup.

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Leftee
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May 16th, 2018 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

About 15+ years ago they were all the rage. Except for the guys who had perpetual problems with them. And there seemed to be more than a few.

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May 16th, 2018 09:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've been using decades old cables that have endured through most of my gigging days and also some George L's I custom built for my close quarter home studio work. I just ordered a 10 foot Live Wire from MF as most of current work is DI into a recording interface.

Peegoo
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May 16th, 2018 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

The mechanical connection between the George L's cable and plug is their weak point.

They work fine for short interconnects on a pedal board or patch bay because they get plugged in and generally left alone.

Repeated flexing at the plug as experienced by longer cables between guitar and amp makes the George L's unreliable. You need a solid solder connection or heavy mechanical connection as used in Neutrik Speakon terminal connectors.

ejm

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May 16th, 2018 10:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Professor: Since no one asked, what cable are you using that you are having problems with?

Peegoo: "Repeated flexing at the plug as experienced by longer cables between guitar and amp makes the George L's unreliable."

Please define "unreliable".

FWIW, I have used them for probably 10 years or more, and from what I recall it seems that the only ones I've ever had a problem with were right angle ones that were ON a pedal board. That number is probably 2 or 3 problems. I have had more problems with pedal board connections between a plug and a pedal jack from NOT being moved and becoming dirty/corroded than I have with an actual cable.

However, I will agree that a soldered connection if done properly *should* last much longer. That is assuming that you unplug a cable by grasping the plug. If you're the type that pulls on the cable, the discussion is over.

FWIW I have only ever used the "small" George L cable. I have not tried the thicker one.

The guys over at the SteelGuitarForum dot Com are split on the George L's.
Some love them as is.
Some don't, mainly for the connectors/connection thing.
Some use the cable, and solder their own ends on, especially for non pedal board runs. I can see that.
Almost everyone agrees on their ease of use for wiring up pedal boards.


Pinetree
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May 16th, 2018 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile  

The small patch cables are awesome, I still use them.

But the two guitar cables I have make all sorts of noise.

Then again, I probably use more gain than some of you.



Peegoo
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May 16th, 2018 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Unreliable means they sometimes go open circuit.

I wanted to like them when they came out. I bought a kit and I followed the instructions. I liked the idea of a simple, customizable kit. I make my own cables, but I'm also open-minded when new, innovative products are introduced.

And I'm not particularly hard on gear.

There was no strain relief to help beef up the connection at the plug. It's not pulling on the cable, it's flexing at the plug that breaks the connection or makes it start crackling.

Achase4u

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May 16th, 2018 11:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

"The mechanical connection between the George L's cable and plug is their weak point."

Exactly. I had one George L cable(it's still in the basement somewhere probably) back 15 years ago when I worshiped at the altar of Eric Johnson(he is/was a user). Something happened with the needle in the connector and the set screw and it was difficult to fix. I think I pushed new cable into the connector and it broke or something. Not super interested after that.

I have a Spectraflex cable that has lasted a nice long while. Their warranty is good if I recall. I had to use it to tie a tailgate shut on the way back from a gig in D.C. once.

The other brand that seems very nice is Rattlesnake. They post the specs on their capacitance as well.

Rattlesnake Cables

TheProfessor
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May 16th, 2018 11:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

The noisy one of note is a Planet Waves.

In the past I've always tended to buy at a price point (about $15 or so) rather than a brand.

Sharkie
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May 16th, 2018 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

“The noisy one of note is a Planet Waves.......”

The good news is a Planet Waves cables have a lifetime warranty.

gdw3

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May 16th, 2018 12:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have a couple long-ish Mogami cables that have been workhorses with zero problems or noise.

woody
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May 16th, 2018 01:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

I like Whirlwind.I also have a couple George L's from back in the day and they have been fine. I'm lucky.

"I have a Spectraflex cable that has lasted a nice long while. Their warranty is good if I recall. I had to use it to tie a tailgate shut on the way back from a gig in D.C. once."

Now that's an endorsement.

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May 16th, 2018 03:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah...but can you tow another car with it? I mean really...you gotta have your cables do the tough work when needed.

Other than that, I also had trouble with the George L stuff years ago. Thought it was a cool idea, but it didn't work for me. It's so long ago that I'm left only with an overall impression (not good, obviously), rather than specific memories.

That said, I've found good sound, flexibility, and long service from Armor Gold. Not sure what they cost now, but they were reasonable when purchased. Have had them for quite a while, so not sure if their prices have gone up significantly. I seem to recall they may have offered cables with 2-90 plugs.

Cal-Woody

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May 16th, 2018 04:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Buy some Mogami silver or gold cables and Neutrik plugs.
It's good quiet cables and the Neutrik connectors anchor the cable ends together really well!
You can get the 'quiet plugs' from Neutrik also and use them regularly. Straight for the Strat input jacks and angled for Les Paul or amp/pedal inputs. I like the quiet plugs so that I can switch guitars without noise during our shows. Mogami also makes microphone cables that are durable and quiet.
Good stuff!

Pinetree
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May 16th, 2018 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

I mod all my Strats with extra long Switchcraft 1/4" jacks.

That allows me to use 90 plugs and have them lay flat against the guitar.



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