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May 17th, 2018 04:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

you end up with a product that falls short in function, features, practicality, etc.

Here's something I saw an ad for--the Palmer Pocket Amp pedal.

The picture alone tells me there were no experienced players in the room when the command decision was made to send the design to prototyping.

And there were apparently no guitar players around when they tested the prototype while it was sitting on the boardroom table and everyone was high-fiving each other to put it into production.

Who puts a cable jack directly below a switch you step on?

Palmer--that's who.

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 06:08 PM, May 17th, 2018)

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May 17th, 2018 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

Lol. Sometime thinking outside of the box is a bad thing. Just a simple consult to a guitar player would have helped tremendously. Guys like Roger Mayer worked directly with Jimi Hendrix , Jimmy Page and others developing pedals for them . He would go to concerts and go with them in the studio to develop pedals to fill the needs of the musicians.

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May 17th, 2018 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've played through one of those and they sound pretty good.


My guess is they're for geezers who set stuff up so that they're pushing the button with their fingers.







Like me.

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May 17th, 2018 04:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Palmer does make good stuff using quality components and they sound good.

I see there are two versions of this pedal. The difference between the Mk I and the Mk II is the first version appears to have a finger push button. The second version has a stomp switch.

And they stuck the 1/8" headphone jack right next to the stomp switch, about an inch away. Weird.


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May 17th, 2018 06:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

"And they stuck the 1/8" headphone jack right next to the stomp switch, about an inch away. Weird."

That was the first thing I noticed. Very impractical even if intended to be used on desk or table.


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May 18th, 2018 01:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

The 1/8" jack is going to be more of a problem.

They're not exactly grand for surviving normal events, let alone a foot.

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May 18th, 2018 05:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

This doesn’t really seem like a pedal. It’s really a headphone amp. So why is there a traditional stomp switch? I’m totally unfamiliar with this thing so I don’t know.

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May 18th, 2018 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

See?

Guitar players everywhere be like "whaaa?"


'o)



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May 18th, 2018 08:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Even the backwards ones.

Especially the backwards ones.

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May 18th, 2018 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile  

I guess it has a stomp switch because it can be used for DI.

Which loops around to Geno’s initial point about input jack placement.

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May 18th, 2018 11:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

PALMer! Use your hand!

Just kidding, but I do agree with Pinetree. It's got a headphone jack and most headphone cables on the market aren't long enough to run from floor to ears.

But guitar jack on the left front and headphone jack on the top are definitely weird.

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May 18th, 2018 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, we're all JUST guitar players, so we must be missing something OBVIOUS...

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