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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Nutty nut driving me nutz!!!

Mick Reid
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May 20th, 2018 04:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

So I ordered a pre-slotted Allparts graphite nut back in November '17 to install in my MII Squier Deluxe Strat... (arrived in January)

Fast-forward (slowly :^) to today. Yep, finally gonna get that done today.

First, the stock nut was *really* stubborn. The factory really glued the crap out of it.
I scored every seam multiple times and was using my 3mm flat brass "drift pin" and little hammer to try and knock it out sideways.
This has *always* worked for me. I didn't dare trying to get anything under the nut to prise it up for fear of damaging the bottom or outer edge of the slot.
More scoring, more scoring... tap, tap, tap... and pop! It moved, but also buggered up the other side of the slot!
No problem, we have the technology... we can fix it.

Okay all fixed. Now I go to fit the new nut. Needs a touch of sanding for the width. Yep, start sanding... hang on a minute... WT...???
The string slots are angled like you'd see on a 3 x 3 headstock! Arrrgggg!

I've emailed the supplier and they're very good and helpful, so I'm confident it was just a wacky batch and they'll look after me, but jeez.
Why do the simplest jobs turn into time sucking blackholes so often???

May be a sign for me to buy a string-spacing ruler and start buying nut blanks.

Below is a series of picks from damage to repair and the wonky nut:

the damage done

Mick Reid
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May 20th, 2018 04:27 PM   Edit   Profile  


the damage un-done

Mick Reid
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May 20th, 2018 04:28 PM   Edit   Profile  


new nutty nut

Te 52

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May 20th, 2018 04:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

When nuts refuse to come out, I saw them lengthwise down the middle, the squeeze the remaining halves together with pliers or end cutters. That approach hasn't failed me...yet.

Peegoo
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May 20th, 2018 04:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yep. An X-Acto saw works great for this.

Sometimes things go so smoothly it's surprising. And sometimes things go so awry you want to throw your tools into the pond.


NICE fix on that maple chip, Mick.

Mick Reid
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May 20th, 2018 06:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

Good tips guys. I have an exacto saw too!

Didn't even think of that. But I also wanted to save the nut because there's nothing wrong it.

I was only changing to graphite because I want to set this one up to use the vibrato. (2-point system, roller string trees, graphite nut). So it's kind of an experimental thing.

"NICE fix on that maple chip, Mick."

Thanks P!


DrKev
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It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
May 21st, 2018 01:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

This is why I always say NEVER use super glue on a nut, always use a SMALL amount of wood or hide glue, just enough to stop it falling out when there are no strings on the guitar.

As a general rule/best practice, always make sure that anything that may need to be removed later CAN be, easily and without risk of damage. Be kind to your future self!

Leftee
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May 21st, 2018 05:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nice recovery!

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May 21st, 2018 06:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Stuck the landing :o)

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May 21st, 2018 07:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

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wrnchbndr

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May 21st, 2018 07:56 AM   Edit   Profile  

I buy 1/8" bridge saddle blanks in various materials. I can use them as either a bridge saddle or a nut.

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May 21st, 2018 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Same here.

But for many folks, I totally appreciate how the pre-slotted stuff makes sense because laying out the string slots is an art form that takes a while to get under yer fangers. It's a shortcut to good results.

Mick Reid
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May 22nd, 2018 06:09 PM   Edit   Profile  

Update:

Turns out the nut I got was indeed NOT wonky!
That's the way Allparts pre-slots the graphite ones. Their grainy photo on the product page is definitely misleading and may require the sending of an email.

There is/was enough material however, that I cut straight slots and filed down the top of the nut so the angled factory slots "went away".

I know the pre-slotted slots (?) are more about string spacing and they require cutting for string action, but honestly, the amount of work it took was about 80% of what starting with a blank would have been.
Oh well, another lesson...

In the end, I got what I wanted.


Peegoo
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May 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

That is cool! There was enough material to take off the top.

Mick Reid
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American-made in Oz!!
May 23rd, 2018 12:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

"That is cool! There was enough material to take off the top."

Yes, but I'm still baffled by Allparts decision to do angled slots on a nut that is specifically marketed for Fender (tele, strat) guitars. (in their product description)


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