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walshb
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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

I mean.....how many of them are 1500W? AND have 6 speakers built in?!
How many of them integrate easily with the Helix also, allowing for the possibility of weeks of tweaking to arrive at 128 perfect tones? (Or maybe more?) What if you just covered up the logo on the front of the amp, so other guitarists in the crowd wouldn't have a clue what you were playing thru?!

Too bad it's 63 lbs, but with that much power, you could just leave it in the trunk of your car and park somewhat close to the stage!?

Ok, seriously, the demo if pretty impressive, and....right now, it's $200 off. Once I retire, I'd have more time to play with something like this. Tempting at this price....

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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, but does it have the feel of a tube amp? :^O


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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hang on...don't pull the trigger just yet.

Line 6 will release a 40-watt version that weighs 2/3 the poundage and does everything the big brother does.

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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

At 65 lbs, yeah.

It has the feel of a tube amp!

Pinetree
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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

My buddy has a Kemper and is pretty happy with it.


Having owned some Line 6 products, I'd be wary.



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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile  

Not a big fan of Line 6 stuff but this one looks good. Don't know about sound but for looks, it is good.

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Jun 3rd, 2018 10:59 PM   Edit   Profile  

Wow! 1500 watts? That almost seems excessive, kind of like this///////

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reverendrob
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Jun 4th, 2018 01:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

1500 watts ...peak. Not RMS.

Still a lot, but...

And it's tied like all the Firehawk stuff by a required phone app.

It'll be a paperweight sooner than not - regardless of the hardware's durability.


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Jun 4th, 2018 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Look, I have enough amps. Including 3 and a half 'modeling' amps. I still have my Cyber Twin head with giant cab that Fender substituted the modeling reference with 'emulating'. A Vox Valvetronix head with accompening cab. A Marshall JMD1 which has many tubes and a Fender G-Dec. That's the half amp. 15 years worth of 'modeling amps'!

I like to think that the Cyber Twin has some kind of nostalgic value and that if sold, I would reap the reward. But, in reality, I know it's worth a box of rocks. Same with the other 'modeling amps' I have.

So, if I may exercise some advice here, this new 'modeling amp' will share the same fate as those previous so-called amp revelations, IMO.

So, if you are committed to purchasing one of these new amp revelations, remember, it's value will only be what it is to you. It's a want rather than a need 'cause, you don't need this amp and so your rationalization for purchasing will be because you want it. Happy tweaking...for the rest of your natural life! (;^D)

gdw3

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Jun 4th, 2018 03:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

1500 watts. Who needs that in a guitar amp? Especially with all the line outs that are possible.

Also, why does it have stereo monitor ins?

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Jun 4th, 2018 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

It’s probably mostly for the 12” subwoofer.

I’d guess this is the ultimate buskers rig.

reverendrob
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Jun 4th, 2018 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

I love a good modeler, in conjunction with other stuff.

I just want them to be future proof enough to function without a phone app - while the PC etc app thing isn't perfect, it at least offers more than a year or two before it stops working due to forced phone upgrades etc and it's a ton easier to keep a legacy PC running than a legacy phone.

I still want a Cyber Twin, just because I couldn't afford it at the time.

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Jun 4th, 2018 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's trying to be everything all at once.

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Jun 4th, 2018 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Dang, I need 1600 watts.

reverendrob
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Jun 4th, 2018 06:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

"It's trying to be everything all at once."

Without offering anything their other products don't have - it's less than a Helix, and not quite one of the higher-end HD floor units they offer...except it comes with a full-range speaker system.

Don't get me wrong, their stuff can sound decent with the right tweaking (and well, once you've got a few good presets on any of them, you're off to the races and don't look back)...and my personal favorite is to stack different interpretations/models of a particular amp type and see what happens.

But I wouldn't want to be tied to one 63 pound weight with no futureproofing.

Same reason I'm dismayed by the most recent Fender Mustang amps.


Deacon Blues

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Jun 5th, 2018 07:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot cord.

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Jun 5th, 2018 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've come to really dislike Line 6's amp modeling. I've not tried out the Helix, but I've heard enough demos to know that the amp models sound digital in comparison to some other units (such as the new Boss GT-1000).

Line 6 does a good job with FX.

I still have a POD 2.0 which is mostly a doorstop at this point.

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Jun 5th, 2018 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a POD HD that I use for only three or five sounds. It had hundreds of sounds and effects, but those couple of sounds record extremely well.

Achase4u

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Jun 5th, 2018 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

I had the original Line 6 Guitarport back in 2005. Man, I can't believe how time has flown.

My awesome folks bought it for me for my birthday. I still have it and honestly miss using it.

I remember Eric Johnson (who I was big into back then) doing a demo for it.

In those days, it sounded pretty darn good. Still not totally realistic, but I got TONS of hours out of that thing for its fun factor and convenience. It also had amps I didn't have. I only had a DRRI back then, I think.

I recorded many songs with it, and jammed more then. I could just load it up and play with headphones while the rest of the house was asleep. My ears and jamming abilities were much better then due in large part to the daily Guitarporting.

Maybe I should hook it up again.

As far as modeling amps, I've never been able to get on with them. They always sounded like a pre recorded sound of an amp playing through a speaker. Rather than a live amp sound in which the speaker is actually part of the sound...

I had the Mustang III or whatever it was about 5 years ago. It did record pretty well, though. Very even sound.

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Jun 5th, 2018 12:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

I bought the IK Multimedia iRig interface thingy for my iPhone. I went ahead and installed AmpliTube. Man, this is some cool schtuff!

It is my headphone practice setup. And it is, by far, some of the best modeling I’ve experienced. And so dang convenient.



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