FDP Home Page / FDP Forum / FAQ's

The FDP is made possible by the following companies and individual members like you.
Please use the links below to show them we value their sponsorship.

Advertise here

Antique Electronics Supply

Yellowjackets Tube Converters

Musician's Friend

MOD KITS DIY

Jensen Loudspeakers

WD Music

Sweetwater

Apex Tube Matching

Amplified Parts

Guitar Center


* God bless America and our men and women in uniform *

* Illegitimi non carborundum! *

If you benefit and learn from the FDP and enjoy our site, please help support us and become a Contributing Member or make a Donation today! The FDP counts on YOU to help keep the site going with an annual contribution. It's quick and easy with PayPal. Please do it TODAY!

Chris Greene, Host & Founder

LOST YOUR PASSWORD?

......................................................................

   
FDP Jam
Calendar
Find musicians
in your area!
  Search the Forums  

FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Weird request

Mick Reid
Contributing Member
*****

Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jun 21st, 2018 11:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you (meaning me) wanted to make the tops of the pole pieces on set of single coils black, what would you use and how would you "seal" it?

I have an industrial permanent marker, but I don't reckon it would be *that* permanent.

I thought about a light coat of black nail polish, but was worried about interfering with the magnetic field.

I can explain my madness later, but for now, just humour me :^)


DrKev
Contributing Member
******

Paris, France

It's just a guitar, not rocket science.
Jun 22nd, 2018 03:27 AM   Edit   Profile  

Nial polish won't affect the magnetic field. My first thought was to go with an epoxy type of paint or perhaps a copper or nickel-based paint. But I don't know that it would last any longer than a black marker. Marker is easy to redo and won't chip off the way a thicker layer of paint or vernish would.

I would buy a few different brands of permanent markers and try them on some scrap metal first to see how well they coat a metal surface and what shade of black they give.

(This message was last edited by DrKev at 05:46 AM, Jun 22nd, 2018)

Mick Reid
Contributing Member
*****

Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jun 22nd, 2018 05:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks DrKev. I might just have to experiment and see what works best.

The marker I've got looks okay but it does flake pretty easily after it dries out.

Will keep trying.

vomer
Contributing Member
**********
*

Slow horses,

fast women
Jun 22nd, 2018 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

Mick, I looked into this recently, and found a guy on youtube using a small jar of "Aluminum Oxidiser", which for the rest of the world would be Aluminium Oxidiser. I haven't tried it yet.

Edit to add: as they are also made of iron, I wonder if Kurust would blacken them as well, as it does to metal it has stripped rust off. I guess you would have something similar there.

(This message was last edited by vomer at 09:56 AM, Jun 22nd, 2018)

hushnel
Contributing Member
**********
**********
*

North Florida

A Friend of Bill W.
Jun 22nd, 2018 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile  

How about a cold Bluing solution.

SonicBlue

Sunbury-on-Thames

Jun 22nd, 2018 07:57 AM   Edit   Profile  

Humbrol (or Revell) enamel for models?

Peegoo
Contributing Member
**********
**********
**********
*

Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jun 22nd, 2018 09:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Cold blue or vinegar would do it, but if it seeps down into the coil it can damage the copper. Same for any metal-darkening solution because it's acid-based.

I'd go the Sharpie route.



Achase4u
Contributing Member
********

U.S. - Virginia

Jun 22nd, 2018 02:06 PM   Edit   Profile  

"How about a cold Bluing solution."

Bingo. Yes, Peegoo is right - it's really not great for a coil, but if you are real careful and use a q tip just dampened in the bluing liquid, you can paint it on with some patience. You'll have trouble getting it all the way down the magnet where it makes a 90 degree angle at the top flatwork, but you can mostly get it on there. If you want them really really black, you'll have to apply a lot.

Sharpie could work, too. The bluing looks a little more "natural" to me. YMMV

Achase4u
Contributing Member
********

U.S. - Virginia

Jun 22nd, 2018 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

You can achieve this result with bluing and other fake dusting etc.

Relic'd pickup by yours truly

Achase4u
Contributing Member
********

U.S. - Virginia

Jun 22nd, 2018 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

another...

Relic pickups

hushnel
Contributing Member
**********
**********
*

North Florida

A Friend of Bill W.
Jun 22nd, 2018 04:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

I’ve used mustard “vinegar” on 1095 blade steel and have had very good results.

Mick Reid
Contributing Member
*****

Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jun 22nd, 2018 05:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys. I thought this one had died a natural death but it is Friday night for yous guys now :^)

I went with the black marker but it doesn't adhere to the metal very well and chips even with normal handling for installation.

It'll do for now. May do some more experimenting next string change.

this is what I was looking to achieve

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 07:01 PM, Jun 22nd, 2018)

Achase4u
Contributing Member
********

U.S. - Virginia

Jun 22nd, 2018 05:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

That's looking like the modern Fender method. I am not sure how they color them, but its most likely before assembly. Then the pickup is dipped in lacquer. So it has that shine to it at the same time.

SonicBlue

Sunbury-on-Thames

Jun 23rd, 2018 03:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

Model enamel is perfect for that finish...

Achase4u
Contributing Member
********

U.S. - Virginia

Jun 23rd, 2018 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Oooooh model enamel. Good idea.

Mick Reid
Contributing Member
*****

Australia

American-made in Oz!!
Jun 23rd, 2018 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Model enamel is perfect for that finish..."

Looks like I'll make a trip to the local hobby store.

Thanks

FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Weird request




Reply to this Topic
Display my email address             Lost your password?
Your Message:
Link Address (URL):
Link Title:




Moderators: Chris Greene  Iron Man  reverendrob  

FDP, LLC Privacy Policy: Your real name, username, and email
are held in confidence and not disclosed to any third parties, sold, or
used for anything other than FDP Forum registration unless you specifically authorize disclosure.

Furtkamp.com 
Internet Application Development

Copyright © 1999-2018 Fender Discussion Page, LLC   All Rights Reserved