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Pinetree
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Jun 23rd, 2018 08:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

You're a lucky man to have figured this out.


Thanks for sharing!




reverendrob
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Jun 23rd, 2018 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

Only pre-45 steel, can't have those atmospheric traces from the atomic and nuclear bombs!

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Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jun 23rd, 2018 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

For those playing through Fender and Mesa amps you will find solar power will degrade signal path and effect your tone. Marshall?

Peegoo
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Jun 23rd, 2018 09:41 AM   Edit   Profile  

Also--a critical and little-known secret is the screw closest to the nut: if it's too long and the pointy end contacts the truss rod, the relational torque creates Eddy Phase inversion, which causes cancelation of the modial interaction of the Mass Principle.

This Phenomenon is named after Eddy Phase, a guitar tech at Gibson in the mid-1950s, who discovered this. It's a closely-guarded secret, so don't tell nobody.

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Tone is in the lingers
Jun 23rd, 2018 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Good point, Geno! Also, the angular displacement of the truss rod is significant. The convex or concave position of the rod with relation to the perpendicular frets will affect the sinusoidal frequency of all triads, but especially at 440 Hz. And, as we all know, most great rock songs derive at 440 Hz.

440...441...whatever it takes.

(This message was last edited by LeftyMeister at 06:21 AM, Jul 8th, 2018)

Gene from Tampa
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Jun 23rd, 2018 12:21 PM   Edit   Profile  

I don't always get to choose my screws,

but when I do I choose Fender pre-CBS - Eric Johnson

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Jun 23rd, 2018 12:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

432 Hz, that way I say everyone else is out of tune. “o) It’s easier on the screws anyhow.


Actually only one guitar is tuned to 432.

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Jun 23rd, 2018 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

BUT! The screw head slots must be properly aligned at 29* and 331* degrees (prime numbers) respectively to the truss rod, or you might as well just use something from Ace hardware screw bin. You're welcome.

* reverse if you're south of the Equator

(This message was last edited by professor at 02:55 PM, Jun 23rd, 2018)

5Strats
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Jun 23rd, 2018 03:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

"Eddy Phase"! Thanks for providing the name for my pre-Nuke surf band from Reno, Nerf Vada. (;oD

LeftyMeister
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Tone is in the lingers
Jun 24th, 2018 05:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

Eddy and the Screwers? :oD


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Jun 24th, 2018 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Meh to all! The new irridian combined rose wood screws manufactured in zero gravity on the ISS, traveling a 17,500 mph far surpasses anything yet devised by man on this here earth! The super tonal quality of these screws when installed in a triangular pattern surrounding the truss rod resonates throughout the fretboard creating an aura of sound unsurpassed in the annals of guitar history...Ok, I just made that up. It may not be unsurpassed in the annals of history but, it's close! ;^)

reverendrob
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Jun 24th, 2018 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

How does one get CITES papers from the ISS?

Bubbalou

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Jul 6th, 2018 08:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

LOL, thanks for the intertainment ;)

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Jul 7th, 2018 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Norlin-Era screws, as all us guys who lived through those times know, are the biggest tone killers and Mojo dampers (not to mention being extremely heavy).

A couple of years ago, I almost bought an otherwise-minty '58 Les Paul Standard but fortunately, just before money changed hands, noticed that the original truss rod cover screws had been replaced with Norlins by the unscrupulous seller who had cunningly failed to disclose this base deception. The tell-tale, Norlin-screw-induced neck dive was the tip-off.

Presumably, he was planning to later sell the originals on e-Bay for big bucks, leaving me stuck with his now-nearly-worthless guitar.


Leftee
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Jul 7th, 2018 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

I think there is truth to this whole theory.

My favorite guitars have truss rod covers.

Tony Wright
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Jul 7th, 2018 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Assuming I could afford it, I would far prefer a NOS Made In Kalamazoo Epiphone truss rod cover than one of the modern Gibson truss rod cover any day of the week. Of course, it is only appropriate if you are playing a pure January 1965 thru December of 1969 Epiphone in the ORIGINAL black with the stylized "E" logo. The factory original screws can still be obtained if you know the secret sources.

Personally, I like that secret source on my Big Burgers which are only served at the small burger joint in Kalamazoo MI.

Just be careful that you don't swallow the NOS truss rod screws while choking down that burger...

Leftee
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VA

Jul 7th, 2018 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile  

Passing truss rod cover screws HIRTZ!

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Jul 7th, 2018 10:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think you guys are, ....well, a little screwy!

reverendrob
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Jul 8th, 2018 03:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

I am, but I had to correct the labeling on the crazy not-exactly-normal spec monsters

Toanez is in the screws, #1

reverendrob
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Jul 8th, 2018 03:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

And the other one.

Toanez is in the screws, #2

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