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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / Tom Quayle

macguy

USA

Jun 26th, 2018 08:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

What is he doing starting at 18:47 to 18:49?

Thanks,

MG

Sounds like EVH

larryguitar19
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larryguitar
Jun 27th, 2018 08:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

sounds like a combination of sweep picking and pinch harmonics.

I don't know how he does it and I don't expect I will be able to do it ever in my life time.

Having said that I wince when I hear that kind of guitar playing. It's the kind of thing I can hear at my local GC on any Saturday afternoon.

To my ear it's impressive technique but it's also a bunch of nothing. What's the real point?

I am in 2 bands and I can't imagine using any of that in any of our songs. I get maybe 4 measures to throw something down and need to make sure I don't paint myself in a corner and that's about it.

There are a handful of bands that have a virtuoso like EVH who get away with a spotlight on the guy to wow the crowd that's part of the act like the lights and fire and fog.

But it's more of a theatrical trick than music.

Anyway...that's my rant for the day.

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Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jun 27th, 2018 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Is that the correct time in the vid?

I'm seeing muted chord strums at 18:47 to 18:49.

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 11:38 AM, Jun 27th, 2018)

macguy

USA

Jun 27th, 2018 09:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Peego...yes, it's after he says the words "Maximum gain" he hits some chords that sound like a Van Halen riff, it's here at :17 but sounds reversed from what Quayle is doing.

Thanks,

MG

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(This message was last edited by macguy at 12:02 PM, Jun 27th, 2018)

littleuch
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Jun 27th, 2018 09:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

Panama

macguy

USA

Jun 27th, 2018 10:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

Littleuch...that's it! Do you know those particular chords and their voicings?

MG

littleuch
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Jun 27th, 2018 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile  

Without digging into it, no. I'm not a huge VH fan but immediately heard those backups "Panama...Pan-a-mahaha" in my head.

macguy

USA

Jun 27th, 2018 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

Litteuch...no worries.

MG

Achase4u
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Jun 27th, 2018 03:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Pretty sure why that looks a little odd is that this guy is a "4th" tuner. Check out the first E chord. Sounds major. It is, yet he is using the 7th position standard tuning E minor shape. This is because he tunes his B string to a C and his E to an F. Some folks swear by this even interval tuning.

He then switches to a stack of thirds which form a major triad(with the low E still under the triad) and you can see the 2nd string interval is lowered a half step/one fret to achieve this.

These aren't plain diatonic chords. If I can find time maybe I can at least name them out.

Achase4u
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Jun 27th, 2018 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

This is perhaps not theoretically correct but lets just ignore the low E string for now.

First chord is an E major 2nd inversion triad B, E, G# at the 9th fret. Keep the B on the bottom and move to B, D# F# for a root position B major triad.

Now move down two frets and repeat those shapes for a D major 2nd inversion to an A major root position.

Now down two more frets and C maj 2nd inv to G maj root position

Now down one fret to a B maj this time in 2nd inv 4th fret, changing to an F# maj shape.

Then comes a good ole second position A chord, open A string, E, A, C# (like the E, D and C triad shapes before it) He actually may have omitted the C# on top for just a power chord there.

Then a D maj/F# 2nd position, to a G maj chord.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 05:43 PM, Jun 27th, 2018)

macguy

USA

Jun 28th, 2018 09:11 AM   Edit   Profile  

Achase4u,


I think you nailed it!

Many thanks,

MG

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Ooo that sandwich

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Jun 28th, 2018 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile  

Spot on!

ejm

usa

Jun 28th, 2018 11:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

I believe that Stanley Jordan uses this tuning, or at least did at one time.

That is all that I know about it.


gdw3

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Jun 28th, 2018 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

I was wondering! It looked and sounded normal, but then when I tried what I saw on the screen, it sounded very wrong!

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