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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Where do they really sleep?

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Southern Calif

Jul 8th, 2018 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

We know it now as “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.”
Back in 1939 it was “Mbube”.

Solomon Linda and the Evening Birds did the 1939 African version.

Then through a variety of coincidences and mistakes, an American version emerged from the Weavers before they went down in flames, victims of the Red Scare in the 1950’s.

The Tokens heard the Weavers version and put their spin on it, using their own wordsmith to come up with lyrics.

Which is why, even today, people believe that lions sleep in the jungle. They don’t. They sleep on the plain.

78 RPM

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Enjoy Every Popsicle
Jul 8th, 2018 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm gonna play that 1939 clip for my son today. He still LOVES that song, even if he doesn't admit it to all his 5th grade buddies.... LOL

why... in the jungle of course

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an acquired taste some may never acquire
Jul 8th, 2018 09:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

Good one, Gato!

Love it when somebody digs up earlier versions of iconic songs that I didn't know existed.

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Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jul 8th, 2018 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well, they're not the only ones spreading disinformation. There's lots of it in rock and roll. Here are a few more examples.

Jailbreak, by Thin Lizzy: "Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak, somewhere in this town." If you don't know where to start looking, here's a hint: nobody breaks out of jail at the corner drugstore.

Sammy Hagar, in his tune Your Love is Driving Me Crazy: "So sublime, hot sweet cherries on the vine." Cherries grow on trees, not on vines.

The Doobie Brothers' Tom Johnston, in the tune China Grove, sang "The sheriff and his buddies with their samurai swords." Samurais are not Chinese. They're Japanese.

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Toronto, Canada

Jul 8th, 2018 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Rolling Stone did a big feature on this song a number of years ago. Worth a read when you have a bit of time...

The Rest of the Story....

Strat Man Do
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Hill Country, Texas

Making music one note at a time.
Jul 8th, 2018 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

Mitch Fargo, one of the co-founders of The Tokens, was a bandmate of mine in L.A. in the late 1980's. He played drums and always kept the band in stitches. Was an active songwriter at the time. Sadly, he passed away last November at age 78, and presumably now sleeps with the lions.

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Ooo that sandwich

is gonna get et
Jul 8th, 2018 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

You guys remember this from a few years back?

Pretty good

stuff from Jimmy and Billy.

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Bogue Falaya River

is STILL dark and cold.
Jul 9th, 2018 05:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

I remember when the Token's "Lion" was popular, there was also an instrumental hit by Billy Vaughn's orchestra called "A Swingin' Safari." I thought they were almost the same song.

While I only skimmed through the last half of the Rolling Stone article linked above, I have not seen or heard anyone notice any resemblance between the Tokens' hit and Vaughn's hit. At least until a few minutes ago when I looked at the songfacts.com page. One of the commenters noted a resemblance.

I think it was the songfacts page for "A Swingin' Safari." Too early.

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Washington DC

Jul 9th, 2018 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Bette Midler's song "The Rose" always bugged me:

"Just remember in the winter, far beneath the bitter snows/ Lies the seed, that with the sun's love in the spring becomes the rose."

Roses spring up from seed? Every backyard gardener knows different.

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