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jesse1d

canada

Jul 10th, 2018 11:46 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a light weight 3lb 2oz unfinished swamp ash strat body who's neck pocket had been routed out for a telecaster neck. Attempting to install a strat neck presents mucho slopo side to side and front to back in the joint.

I thought about putting thin foil tape on the back and sides of the actual neck where it interfaces and then affixing it to the body. Maybe using a syringe to squirt lacquer into the space and wait for it to harden. Later removing the neck which hopefully
comes out, if the lacquer doesn't stick to the tape. Now remove the tape and reinsert.

Anyone know of a better product or method that might fill in the negative space to achieve a tight fitting neck pocket once again?



DrKev
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Jul 10th, 2018 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Personally, I would shim, If necessary. Are the neck and body screw holes drilled yet?

But before you do any of that, just remember that a slightly loose neck pocket is better than a too tight neck pocket. Neck pocket finish cracks are common and usually only cosmetic but the tighter the neclk pocket the more likely they are to occur and the more likely it is to NOT be only cosmetic, if say the guitar falls over sideways.

Also a little bit of side to side movement is necessary to assure correct string alignment. And the correct neck position front to back is determined by the bridge position and making sure you have enough motion in the saddles for correct intonation. Pushing the neck as far into the pocket as possible may make that difficult on the low E string.

(This message was last edited by DrKev at 02:39 PM, Jul 10th, 2018)

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Jul 10th, 2018 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Band name alert!!
And now for your listening pleasure - -Neck Slot Slop

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Jul 10th, 2018 03:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

If you're going to paint the body, you could glue in pieces of hardwood veneer, sand the edges smooth, grain fill, and paint. It will be invisible.

Lacquer continues to gas off and shrink over time, so it's not a good solution as a gap filler.

Same goes for any kind of wood filler or putty, because it can yield to the mechanical pressure in the joint and crumble over time.

But like the good DrKev says above, a little bit of wiggle room is necessary to prevent the finish from cracking around the neck pocket.

The neck should drop into the pocket with gravity. If you have to press it in, you risk finish cracks down the road as the wood expands and contracts with changes in temperature and humidity.

jesse1d

canada

Jul 10th, 2018 04:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

DrKev, I do have holes drilled in the body but not on this neck yet.

Peegoo you're right about not using lacquer as filler, didn't think about shrinkage.

I'll take everyone's advice and not worry so much about a super tight fitting joint. Just get a nice alignment and secure it down.

Thanks all for your advice!


Mick Reid
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

The only things I'll add are that, as far as intonation goes, a strat heel into a tele pocket is okay but a tele heel into a strat pocket will have problems. So you should be good.

Secondly, the gaps at the corners of the tele pocket will be able to be disguised by the strat pickguard.


Leftee
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

Or the overhang if it’s a 22 fret neck.

Mick Reid
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Jul 10th, 2018 05:04 PM   Edit   Profile  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yep. That too!

Leftee
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VA

Jul 10th, 2018 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

This had a 22 fret Strat-shaped neck on it when it was a guitar.

Linky

jesse1d

canada

Jul 10th, 2018 08:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys, and hey, if I screw it up I can always make a clock out of it.

Leftee, The picks use instead of numbers is inspired.

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Jul 11th, 2018 08:51 AM   Edit   Profile  

A loose pocket is really just a cosmetic issue and nothing more.

Leftee
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VA

Jul 11th, 2018 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks! I can't take credit, though.

I was in the planning stage of this little project and I was going to use numbers of some sort. One weekend, not long ago, we went to a local lavender festival and I found a vendor booth that was selling old 78 rpm records made into clocks. They used guitar picks to mark the dials.

jesse1d

canada

Jul 11th, 2018 10:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah but the fact that it's also a guitar body creates cohesion, it's very artistic. I could envision numbers printed on the guitar pics. Maybe a cookoo version where a little toy Chuck Berry pops out and "duck walks" to johnny B Good as a chime tone:)

Leftee
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Jul 11th, 2018 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

Dude!

That is an awesome concept!

I'd probably prefer a little Yngwie.

jesse1d

canada

Jul 11th, 2018 05:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah ok, Yngwie pops out of the doors and spins a little strat guitar around his neck on the guitar strap while a blistering solo chimes the hour. And just to make it even more dramatic you put a high intensity led as mini spot light over his head and have a puff of smoke like a fog machine.

Dude, we could start a new company and call it "Clock And Roll"!

How about an EVH frankenstrat clock where a little Diamond Dave and Sammy Hagar pop out to the monster tom intro of hot for teacher and they beat each other over the head with their microphones?

Leftee
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Jul 11th, 2018 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

It would be an international company.

Cuz you’re up there and I’m down here.

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