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K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 03:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm dog sitting for my Son and he has a Weber Genesis with the stainless grill grate.

My Weber has the cast iron grates.

My question,

How the heck do you cook with stainless, and not have hamburger stick to it.

So far all I've managed to do is make a mess trying to flip or remove the patties from the grill.

Help!!

(This message was last edited by K4 at 05:47 PM, Jul 10th, 2018)

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought my Weber Silver B with the stainless grates and flavorizer bars. If you preheat the grill and cook the Weber way (lid closed), zero problems. Hamburgers are what we mostly do. Never once have I had one stick unless I tried to turn it too soon. FWIW, we use frozen, pre-formed Costco burgers (ground round, not ground sirloin). I've also cooked salmon, steaks, and chicken without issue. I've had this grill for close to 20 years now. Nothing has been replaced (or needed replacing).

K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like the cast iron grates. At least I don't have the sticking problem with mine.

I'll try leaving the lid closed the whole cook.

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's your problem. You need to use a Weber according to their directions. Leaving the lid open, even for part of the cook, will not produce the results you want. Webers are designed to be used with the lid closed!

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Jul 10th, 2018 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

CG has it. You’re turning too early, and it’s too early because it’s not closed.

When done properly, the meat will release from the grates when ready and flipping is no problem. If it’s stuck, it ain’t ready.

K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK,

My grill at home is a Genesis, only it has the cast grates. No problem with sticking, even when I cook wrong.
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Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 04:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BTW, leave the lid closed on your cast iron grates too. If you spend the money for a Weber, you might as well use it correctly. Faster cooking times, the smoky flavor you expect. Leaving the lid open, you might as well buy a $20 charcoal grill from the supermarket because you'll get the same results.

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Jul 10th, 2018 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nothing to add here, the FDP understands grilling.

What Mike said about letting the meat release itself applies to cooking inside as well. It's basic technique.

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 05:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still, I use non-stick fry pans indoors.

K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use cast iron fry pans.

I guess I'm an analogue and cast iron Man.

I do have a stainless fry pan. I used it 2 or 3 times. Yep the food stuck to it.



K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Chris, I've also got the Costco frozen ground round burgers.

What temp and for how long do you cook them.

I like burgers charred and med rare to med.

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seeing as though I do quick grilling of things like these burgers, I turn all three burners to Hi and wait until the temp gage is maxed (with the lid closed, of course). Toss the burgers on and about 2 minutes a side from frozen. Sometimes it takes a bit longer depending on the outside temp. But around 2 minutes, I lift the lid, slide a spatula under one and check. If it hasn't released, I close the lid for another minute and check again. I like burgers cooked through but not well done. I'll take steaks med-rare but burgers need to be med (maybe just the hint of pink in the very middle).

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Jul 10th, 2018 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's not just Weber. You should leave the lid closed on them all. Once the meat (beef/fish/pork etc.) is done on that side it will release and not stick. I'm in the camp of turning as few times as possible. I will turn a steak 90 degrees once and then flip once. Burgers I may do more it just depends on the day. You need to learn your hot spot. Almost all grills have one.

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Jul 10th, 2018 05:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I cook on my grill at home just the way I like my food. Not going to change there.

With this stainless grill I need some learning.

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 06:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Assuming the burners and their output is the same, it should be no different. Stainless grates don't matter (except in longevity).

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Jul 10th, 2018 06:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At home I'd heat the grill to 700, place patty on grill after 1 min I close the lid for 2 min 30 seconds more. Open lid flip close lid for 2 min 30 seconds then open lid for 1.

Let stand under a loose canopy of tin foil for 3 min and eat. Comes out just the way I like them.

So far with the stainless grill I cannot get it to work. I just tried leaving the lid closed for the 3 and one half min and it still stuck and fell apart when I tried to flip.

So do I need to cook at a lower temp? Again I like grilled meat to be charred.

Only one week to go, maybe I'll stick to steaks.

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Jul 10th, 2018 06:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“Only one week to go, maybe I'll stick to steaks.”

I could think of worse ways to spend a week.

Chris Greene
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Jul 10th, 2018 06:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At this stage, you know everything I know. I suspect there are design differences on this grill vs. the one you have at home.

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Jul 10th, 2018 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I always figured the stainless grates took longer to come up to temperature than the cast.

I thought (maybe incorrectly) that it was the searing of the meat that allwowed it to release.

So, maybe let his grill preheat a couple minutes or more longer. Let those SS grates get good and hot.

Just spitballing here.

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 08:33 PM, Jul 10th, 2018)

K4
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Jul 10th, 2018 07:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

His is the newer version, gas knobs in front, mine has the valves on the right side.

I'll let it heat up a bit longer and give it a go.

I kinda like my steak idea, If a steak sticks it wont disintegrate. Costco is close.

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