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jefe46
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Jul 11th, 2018 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile  

Anyone besides me watching the pinnacle of international bicycle racing ?
It's fantastic now that braggart, cheat, liar thug and all around bad guy Armstrong is out of the picture.

Peter Sagan is hot this year.
Wrongly booted out last year and the "committee" finally (four months later) retracted their call and said that Sagan's actions should be categorized as inevitable race interaction. Right, after it cost Sagan a win..

Froome (4 time Tour de France Champ looking for #5) is not doing so well and greatly despised by the French and Italians.

I'll be watching again early AM.

Anyone else ?

Pinetree
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Jul 11th, 2018 07:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

I catch the highlights on Global Cycling Network (GCN).




Richard L
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Jul 12th, 2018 02:54 AM   Edit   Profile  

Yup, one of La Tour's fans here. The Froom issue will, I am afraid, not fade away. There is a risk it may turn quite nasty especially on the mountain stages. I hope not.

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Jul 12th, 2018 05:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

"The Froom issue will, I am afraid, not fade away. There is a risk it may turn quite nasty especially on the mountain stages."

I may have picked this up incorrectly but the impression I got was that the case presented by the SKY team not only exonerated Froome in this instance but demonstrated that the test was unreliable and the ruling could in future protect other riders from an unwarranted sanction who might not have SKY's resources to protect them.

That being the case the other riders should be grateful or is it past allegations against SKY that are the issue?

Pinetree
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Jul 12th, 2018 06:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Froome has been cleared, but that's apparently not good enough for some people.



Mikeyguitar
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Jul 12th, 2018 07:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Peter Sagan is hot this year.
Wrongly booted out last year and the "committee" finally (four months later) retracted their call and said that Sagan's actions should be categorized as inevitable race interaction. Right, after it cost Sagan a win.. "



Actually, Cavendish would have likely won that stage...but whatever.
It looked pretty blatant to me - not sure if he should have been booted from the race or not.


But yes, I'm a fan and have been watching. In fact, I'm at work and watching it right now. LOL

The Froome thing is not over. Doubts will linger for a long time.
And it's not like Froome isn't doing well. It's early - he can make up much of that time in one individual time trial stage.

jefe46
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Jul 12th, 2018 01:21 PM   Edit   Profile  

Froome crashed early on, not a big deal but a few seconds can make the difference at the end.

Froome was exonerated but others with similar infractions have been raked over the coals prior, and there-in lies the beef.

As to Sagan and Cavendish,, I have reviewed the videos dozens of times.. Cavendish went where no man should go.. that is without Sagan's maneuver.

When I say it cost Sagan a win.. I do not necessarily mean that stage.
Sagan was as good last year as this year and it is more than possible, it is probable, Sagan would have won a stage last year.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 06:53 PM, Jul 12th, 2018)

Mikeyguitar
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Jul 12th, 2018 01:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

Oh, yes, he likely would have won at least one stage last year.

And true, every second matters. I think Froome is the one guy that can "spare" a few seconds and still win...although he seems to have plenty of competition this year. I want to see Froome and Landa battle late in the race. Heck, there are a bunch of guys I'd like to see keeping close to the end.
Today's stage looked pretty exciting at the end. I didn't hear any of the commentary, but it sure looked interesting.
:^)

jefe46
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Jul 12th, 2018 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

Froome is not a "shoe-in"

There is so much talent out there...

My guess is that a not so famous rider may be the next TDF winner.


Let's keep it interesting and not mega euros centric. !!!


I am a serious fan (OMG fan !!!) of Sagan because he is extremely talented and has mega guts and gets dumped on because he is Slavic...
not French or, Italian or Spanish....
reason... unlike the others he has B A L L S.

Another B E E F

I am born in Tasmania of Latvian parents who competed under USSR flag now under Union Jack sponsored by Taiwan company with office in Berlin .... what nation am I be ?
Beermo





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Jul 13th, 2018 02:06 AM   Edit   Profile  

Always like watching the Grand Tours.

They are a travelogue of each country, always some interesting scenery, historic buildings, topography, rock formations and the like.

Cycling has always been popular round this way and some of the local young blokes have made their way into some these races via the smaller teams.
Even though I don't know them it is interesting to see how they are going.

Regarding the latest Chris Froome drug tests, out on the internet there is some quotes from one of the people who developed the test for the asthma medication.

He says that the test is not suitable for competitors at endurance events as the drug becomes concentrated in the bladder.

The test was originally applied to events like swimming where the competitors would have more fluid in their bladder.

Froome was double the legal limit, so if you do the maths, working backwards, it becomes feasible that the drug was concentrated due to his being dehydrated at the end of 4-5 hours racing.

Unfortunately,he was only cleared of the charges after the threat of his being excluded from the TDF became public.
Something which appears a very cynical move and doesn't help the imaage of the sport.





Mikeyguitar
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Jul 13th, 2018 06:44 AM   Edit   Profile  

I too am a fan of Sagan.
Also, Rafal Majka of Poland due to my Polish heritage. There are actually a few guys I sort of root for - Cavendish, Aru, Uran, (Canondale in general).

I don't dislike Froome, but I tend to be more underdog oriented, so I sort of root against him. LOL
I sort of think he gets a bum rap about being mechanical due to Team Sky.
He always seems to make the races interesting - weather it be from crashing, losing a shoe, flying up the hills, coming from behind, etc.

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Jul 15th, 2018 04:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Today was a tough day for the riders..I'm glad they get tomorrow off.

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Jul 15th, 2018 10:02 PM   Edit   Profile  

I too am a fan and have been DVRing the race daily.

Sagan is a beast in the sprint stages, and today showed he's also good on the cobblestones.

For the most part, I find the sprint stages very boring until the end sprints, or if the pelaton is just able, or fails, to overtake the breakaway riders in the last few hundred meters.

However, I find the mountain stages to be very entertaining with the team strategies, attacks, recoveries, and outright unbelievable climb efforts.

Mikeyguitar
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Jul 16th, 2018 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile  

"For the most part, I find the sprint stages very boring until the end sprints, or if the pelaton is just able, or fails, to overtake the breakaway riders in the last few hundred meters."



This is true. But I think a stage like yesterday (with the cobbles) makes it VERY interesting and entertaining.
Wow, that was quite a stage!

Pinetree
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Jul 16th, 2018 08:34 AM   Edit   Profile  

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