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acplayer

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Dec 11th, 2018 07:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

Well....Here we go again.....
as a continuation of the thread below:
http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=822241&lastpost=2018-11-1817:37:58

Over Thanksgiving, the vocalist (sister of the drummer/bandleader) quit....
The bandleader immediately put up a craigslist ad searching for a vocalist...
I highly suggested that the bandleader look at the local University's (with which I am on the adjunct faculty) Music program for a vocal major...
...no, he insisted that advertising on CL is the way it's done....

Last night we had two vocalists audition: Gal #1 is a 30 y/o college trained singer (sounded very polished) and #2 was older (40's?), sounded less polished but did a good job.

Band meeting following the auditions: The guys in the band liked #1 (younger/cuter, sounded good)....I liked both of them but suggested that they consider #2 o-v-e-r #1... Why?

#2 came to the audition with her own wireless mic (and insisted on using it) thus she (in my mind) is used to performing. She is older, sounds good enough to do the gig, an "older" cute (explanation: she seems old enough to know what she wants AND is young enough to get it - kind of old..), "worked the audition" and, most of all, seems to be past her "child-bearing years" and somewhat settled...

#1 sounded good, is younger/cuter (not exactly eye-candy), however - she is getting married in May to a musician buddy of mine's son (who is an excellent jazz bassist).
I feel that the fact that she is marrying into a very accomplished musical family could influence her opinion about the rhythm section..in a negative way....plus marriage usually brings babies.....

I brought-up all of the above to the guys at our meeting afterwards and they looked at me "dumbfounded".....

I felt like a father talking to his sons about "the musical birds'n the bees"........

Maybe I'm old and cranky but I've been there, done that, lived through it, regretted it, in the past...

I'm curious as to see which way the guys go...



Leftee
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Dec 11th, 2018 07:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I like your reasoning. But, then, I'm "old" as well.

littleuch
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Dec 11th, 2018 07:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

Sounds like the age difference between you and the rest of the band is sizeable. I'd take professionalism/preparedness/experienced over, well, the lack of it.

Giving a higher weight factor to youth and looks favors the making of a "female star" as opposed to being just a band.

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Dec 11th, 2018 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

Like Leftee I also like your thinking. I'm 'old' too but I don't think your argument has as much to do with age as much as your instincts about which singer is more dependable long term.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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Dec 11th, 2018 10:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Dependable singers are hard to come by. The fact that they looked at you dumbfounded makes me mad, because you obviously have experience, and oh, I don't know, TEACH music for a living!

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Dec 11th, 2018 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

My vote would be for singer #3, a vocalist that played an instrument and sang lead.

From you choices above #2 seems the best suited.

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Dec 11th, 2018 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'm with you and would pic #2 as well.

One of the best bass players I've played with was a bit older. The first time we talked on the phone. He said "Oh, buy the way, I'm an old guy." I told him it didn't matter. He passed the audition and stayed with us many years until he moved to Las Vegas. He could play! Improvised some parts and made great suggestions. I still miss James.

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Dec 11th, 2018 12:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

I agree with your reasoning.

Everyone wants a 2-door sports coupe, but then they usually realise the 4-door SUV might be the more practical choice.

Pinetree
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Dec 11th, 2018 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

At the risk of sounding sexist, I'm not gonna say anything.



Signed,

A Guy Who's Been In A Band With A Female Vocalist.



Peegoo
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Dec 11th, 2018 01:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ditto.

Gaukdawg

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Dec 11th, 2018 01:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

As part of our songs and audiences we have chosen to play for, we kind of need a female vocalist. We had a great singer for 10 years and then she got the day job she had wanted for years and decided to drop out. We had a decent replacement that worked out for about a year and a half but she was singing with another band as well and decided 2 bands was too much. Found a lady that was great except she showed up 30 minutes late for her first gig and then started talking about not being able to make some gigs that she had already approved. Just by luck we had a girl reach out to us on facebook. Bingo, finally a great young sweet lady who can sing harmonies as well as great leads. Dedicated and helps promote the band. But there were a whole bunch of auditions in between all these times that had us thinking we were going to have to maybe change the song list. So I would say, from experience, to keep looking until you find the one that fits. It won't be easy but it will be worth the wait. We did the thing about checking with the local universities choirs and bands and didn't have much luck with those young ladies.

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Dec 12th, 2018 09:12 AM   Edit   Profile  

The “past her child bearing years” idea may improve your odds, but it’s no guarantee. We lost a good female singer who left town to get married. Her predecessor, who was beyond those years, was also a successful career woman. She left town for a promotion. The benefit of appearance is obvious, but vocal ability, stage presence, and a personality that fits the band are more important.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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Dec 12th, 2018 12:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

All you gotta do is look at Alabama Shakes. She is a fantastic lead singer, but is not "classically" beautiful. But she is a great performer, and is undeniable. And she's someone you can't take your eyes off.

I'd MUCH rather have a good performer who's dependable.

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 01:38 PM, Dec 13th, 2018)

Mick Reid
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Dec 12th, 2018 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

I consider myself to be a decent singer, but every time I've been hired on the grounds that I'm just incredibly good-looking, it never worked out.


Mick Reid
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Dec 12th, 2018 02:44 PM   Edit   Profile  







That was a joke, you barstages!!!


Leftee
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Dec 13th, 2018 12:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Oh, don't worry Mick...

(-;

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Dec 13th, 2018 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

Being at practice is more important then being pretty,...That goes for you too Mick!

Leftee
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Dec 14th, 2018 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

Especially you, Mick.

(-;

(This message was last edited by Leftee at 12:57 PM, Dec 14th, 2018)

Tony Wright

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Dec 14th, 2018 11:11 PM   Edit   Profile  

Mike: I do not envy you....

We will keep a light on for you.





6 Cylinder Slim

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Dec 16th, 2018 01:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

I can understand wanting a vocalist that fit seamlessly into your existing rotation, but people who have the talent of not only singing, but entertaining and connecting with the audience are rare. Personally, I would open up the audition to anybody and see who shows up. You never know, you could get very lucky.

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