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Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 27th, 2019 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yikes! You're gonna have to cook some tana leaves and read from the Book Of Dark Conjures.

I can't help ya, brother :oD



And for all you comedians thinking about requesting a picture of a broken Hut on a guitar,

here you go.

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 06:29 PM, Mar 27th, 2019)

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Mar 27th, 2019 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, the first machine, compounded leverage. The cavemen did it with a bludgeon. And it wern’t aliens that built the pyramids.

Leftee
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Knuckleheading
Mar 27th, 2019 05:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

Green granite-looking nuts.

I’d be all over that. Especially on certain guitars.

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 27th, 2019 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nuts of Granite.

If that isn't a great name for a product line--I dunno what is!

hushnel
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Mar 27th, 2019 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

Granuts?

Therealfrogman
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Mar 27th, 2019 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nice work!

Achase4u
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Mar 27th, 2019 08:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

This is why I always try to take very good care of guitars people loan me(like yours).

Man. I would grow a tail just to put it between my legs.

Excellent work, G.

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Mar 28th, 2019 08:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

If you call, you can get 4" X 4" X 3/8" corian samples directly from the manufacturer for very cheap. Go to Lowes or Home Depot, select the colors you want and give 'em a ring. It saves you from thinking criminal thoughts at the home improvement store and the larger samples are big enough to make acoustic saddles too. All sorts of colors available.

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Mar 28th, 2019 08:40 AM   Edit   Profile  

"It saves you from thinking criminal thoughts at the home improvement store"

No kidding. I went to the service desk to order some Owens Corning insulation they had as special order on their site. It was like I asked them to bring somebody back to life. 40 minutes later, they had no idea how to get the insulation to the store so I left.

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 28th, 2019 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

That's because you were in a Wallgreen's.

[rim shot]

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Knuckleheading
Mar 28th, 2019 03:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

If he was at Walgreens it for *the other* nuts.

Not sure why fiberglass insulation was required. That doesn’t sound right at all. O-:

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Mar 28th, 2019 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile  

You gotta protect yourself these days man. It's fireproof.

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Mar 29th, 2019 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile  

Peegoo, how do you remove the old nut? I presume they are held in place with a drop of glue? More than a drop?

Those of us with old nuts need to know!

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 29th, 2019 11:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

This type of nut doesn't really sit in a slot like on a Fender neck. Gibsons are like this too. Here's how I do it.

If the clear finish is sprayed on after the nut is installed, you risk cracking the finish around the nut. So always score around the ends and back of the nut with an X-Acto blade. That allows the finish to break cleanly along the score line. If there's no finish on the nut, you can skip this step.

Next, lay a small block of wood atop the frets, resting against the front of the nut. All that's left to do is a light tap on the opposite end of the block; a screwdriver handle is ideal to tap the block because a light tap is all that's necessary to pop the nut off.

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The older the violin

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Mar 29th, 2019 11:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

Very good, thanks!

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 29th, 2019 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

Far as gluing 'em in, some techs say a thin film on the bottom of the nut is best.

I smear a thin film of glue on the bottom, as well as the front, where it abuts the end of the fingerboard. Titebond is my preferrred glue for this.

I press the nut in place and like to see some squeeze-out all around. Put a few strings in the nut and moderately tension the strings; this acts like a clamp and holds the nut in place while the glue sets up. Use some slightly dampened paper towel to wipe up the squeeze-out.

A little piece of paper towel folded over a thickness gauge works great for getting in there beneath the strings to wipe up any visible glue beads.

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Mar 30th, 2019 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a friend’s 70’s Conn acoustic that has broken on the high E side. It has the Martin-style slanted bottom. I’d like to replace it. Is this too much to tackle for a newb?

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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 30th, 2019 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Not at all. If you can work slowly and carefully, you can easily do this.

The only 'gotcha' for a beginner doing this is the need for gauged nut slot files. There's really no substitute.

You can buy what some vendors call 'nut slot files' for very little money, but they're actually oxyacetylene torch tip cleaners (see link). The only thing they're good for is cleaning gunk out of dirty nut slots. You will be many many hours at work trying to make actual slots with this tool because they're not sharp like a fie, and they're made of thin wire; you cannot apply pressure on them.

The trick (not really a trick) with a Martin is to work the nut blank back and forth over sandpaper taped to a flat surface to establish the correct angle so it fits nicely.

You can order a replacement nut directly from Martin that already has the proper angles on it, but you'll still need slotting files to set the guitar up for proper nut action.

Don't waste your money

Peegoo
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Just beyond Mars

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Mar 30th, 2019 04:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

These are also not nut slotting files; they're needle files, used by jewelers and model makers (link).

But like the torch tip cleaners, these are a lot cheaper than proper slotting files--so unscrupulous vendors label them as such just to make the sale.

While the knife-edge file in the set can be used as a slotting file, it's still a lot of work to use because it's not really made for the job.

Needle files

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Mar 31st, 2019 09:04 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a couple of these around someplace. I find it usefull for nuts already slotted and use it for lowering, rounding and cleaning the edges. Being careful you can dress all the slots with one file.

Round Escapement Files

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