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Therealfrogman
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Apr 19th, 2019 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

Oh, the possibilities. Just gotta get a white guard and a hammer now.

Traded my Parlor acoustic for it ;)

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Apr 19th, 2019 01:22 PM   Edit   Profile  

Cool!

I traded for a plain Jane MIM Strat years ago. It had a white pickguard...

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(This message was last edited by Leftee at 03:23 PM, Apr 19th, 2019)

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Apr 19th, 2019 01:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Shawang!I forgot how much I love these things... I guess I will just put this one over next to that one over there.

Everyday is me me me day.

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Apr 19th, 2019 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

LOL

Therealfrogman
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Apr 19th, 2019 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Proof

Blackie

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Apr 19th, 2019 01:48 PM   Edit   Profile  

More proof

Black Label

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Apr 20th, 2019 03:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

Looks nice!

That’s gotta be around mid-1990s or so. It’s in really nice shape.



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Apr 20th, 2019 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nice acquisition Bob! Hope it was a good trade for you.

Off topic - the pedals at your feet, is one of those a Joyo Sweet Baby? And, what's the TCE one to the far right?

I used to have the Sweet Baby, but can't remember why I sold it.


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Apr 20th, 2019 07:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, sweet baby. It's an awesome pedal. The Other one is an Afterglow chorus.

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Apr 21st, 2019 01:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

"The Other one is an Afterglow chorus."

Ah yes. I have the Skysurfer Reverb from that series. They're good pedals for the price, but I wish they used smaller boxes and side jacks.

Sorry for side tracking your thread...


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Apr 21st, 2019 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile  

I cannot say enough about the Sweet baby tone, I think I paid $19 for it new and there is just a graceful overdrive to it that can be dialed in with any of my guitars.

It is a forever pedal.

The afteglow was a GC 35 dollar sale and it is the only chorus I have, not real good for anything IMO.

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Apr 21st, 2019 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

I am going to do some relicing to this strat so if anyone has a link to decent pics of Blackie (I cannot find anything) it would be nice if you shared them.

That is really what I am going for. The ceramic pups sound pretty damn good. I have a american steel block bridge I am going to install (just gotta fill some holes and redrill for the bridge plate.

Other than that I am not going to spend a penny on it. Neck is perfect (actually a 2012 neck on a 2001 body)it has been to some luthier before I got it, frets are just to smooth and tapered for factory work.

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Apr 21st, 2019 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

I think your guitar is really sweet looking but the thought of relicing the body may be more of a job than you might want to take on. The finish on the Mexican Strat is probably polyester and very hard.
Sure it will scratch up but is not as easy to change its appearance as an nitro finish. Tough as nails and probably has some ugly undercoat that won't give you that worn out finish that a softer finish material will allow you to make the worn away look.
I think it would possibly turn out looking like chips and grooves rather than something that has gracefully aged.
Yes, you can sand into the finish but I think you'll be more disappointed with it than refinishing it with something less durable than the coating that's on there now.
Excuse my ignorance if I'm incorrect as to the finish material used on the body now, but I think it might be as I stated earlier, some type of super hard poly type finish.
Hopefully someone else with more knowledge of what was used on it will pipe in on this subject but I think I could be correct and if I am, then you may end up with a mess and not the look you have imagined.
Best regards always, Woody

(This message was last edited by Cal-Woody at 02:56 PM, Apr 21st, 2019)

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Cal-Woody, your assessment is correct and absolutely true. Considering this I may strip it down completely or heck, dunno.

I want to try my hand mostly at giving the neck some character and after watching a hundred videos of what I consider idiot and useless methods I have a very good plan that I will start today.

The thing is I really would like it to be a little more amber, I think I can achieve this without a complete strip down but we will see.

Thank you for the observation and again you are spot on with it. Relicing is not my thing but I still want to have a stab at the neck and I have only $300 into the guitar I traded for it and that money was spent a while ago so my attitude is I have this thing to figure it with and if it goes bad I can simply strip it and make it like new.

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Apr 21st, 2019 05:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

As for stripping poly off a body, I did it *once*. That was enough for me to never do it again.

Since then any refinish involving poly has been spraying over the old finish.

The only way to effectively remove the poly (at least in it's entirety) is with a heat gun and putty knife. It's messy, smelly and creates glass-like shards that are extremely sharp.

I've never attempted relicing as I'm not a fan, but if I were to do it on poly, it would indeed involve power tools ;^)

Once the main area of finish was removed with the "heavy machinery" I think the edges could be feathered via hand sanding to give it a more realistic "worn" appearance.

Sounds like you've already got a plan for the neck. The neck finish is infinitely easier to work with than the PU/PE used on the bodies.
It usually involves lots of scraping.

I'll be interested to hear what you decide and how you go.


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Apr 21st, 2019 06:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

Polyurethane is easy to remove (strippers work).

Polyester, however, is five levels of Hell. You need to use a torch or a heat gun, which does not soften the finish. It makes it pop off in jagged shards like shattered glass (not exaggerating).

Stripping a catalyzed polyester finish is a non-starter for me. I'll happily fill dings in it and shoot a refin, but stripping to the wood? Never again.

If you want a fairly-authentic Blackie, sell that body and get yourself a bare body you can shoot nitro on.

Don't say we didn't warn ya!

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Apr 22nd, 2019 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile  

It's a rabbit hole. After reading yooz guyses thoughts and bla bla I have decided to just play it.

I may put a white guard on it but it actually looks pretty bitchin the way it is. I actually started looking for an alder body and had to stop myself. It is a pretty stunning guitar without a scratch anywhere.

Sincerely,
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Apr 22nd, 2019 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

Lol

It’s a lesson I had to try myself. It sucked out loud. And then some.

Cal-Woody

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Apr 22nd, 2019 03:55 PM   Edit   Profile  

That is a beaut of a guitar and am glad you're going to keep it that way! Nostalgic and simple!

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Apr 22nd, 2019 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile  

In addition to all the other warnings, if you use too much heat attempting to strip a polyester finish, you can separate the glue seams on a multi-piece body.

If you just want to give a little age to the body, #0000 steel-wooling or scotch-briting the finish will give it a nice satin sheen.

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