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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / 83 Elite pickup pushbutton question

Speedyone

United States

May 27th, 2019 10:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hi all,

For anyone that has an 83 Elite, I have a question:

I was trying out the different sounds by pressing the different pickup selector buttons.

When all 3 buttons are NOT engaged, the guitar is dead silent and you can’t hear anything. I guess it makes sense that if NO pickups are selected, that there wouldn’t be any sound, but it just seems odd.

For those of you who have this guitar, does this same thing (dead silence,) happen to your guitar when all 3 buttons are disengaged?

Thanks for your help!

SonicBlue

Sunbury-on-Thames

May 28th, 2019 04:57 AM   Edit   Profile  

Looking at the wiring diagram, it looks like the switches are simply in series with their pickup hot wires, so what you're seeing is normal.


Elite wiring diagram:-

https://eledar.net/Music/walnelite/photos/web_WSwiringdiagram.jpg

Elite user manual

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Planet Peegoo

Rhythm & Lewd Guitarist
May 28th, 2019 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile  

That is correct. Each button is a latching on-off switch, lust like a light switch.

This model line did not last long in production, mostly because of this switching scheme. It is clunky to operate while playing.

I guess if you learned to play on an Elite Strat or Tele, the original lever switch would seem weird.

Speedyone

United States

May 28th, 2019 06:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys!

I just wanted to make sure there wasn’t something wrong with the electronics

I appreciate the info!

:)

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May 28th, 2019 12:14 PM   Edit   Profile  

It's not limited to the Elites, either. Jaguars have the same issue - the pickups can be switched completely off.

Speedyone

United States

May 28th, 2019 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

In a way it’s sort of cool... I could do the on/off trick like Randy Rhoad’s did on his live solo on Tribute!

:)

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Planet Peegoo

Rhythm & Lewd Guitarist
May 28th, 2019 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Fender Mustangs are the same way with their little on-off-on slider switches.

Buckethead has a kill switch on his Les Pauls that's a momentary shorting switch to send signal to ground. I tried this idea in the 1980s on a custom built headless, and once the novelty wore off I never used it.

You can easily do this 'machine gun' effect on a Les Paul by having the one pickup's volume up and the other pickup's volume at zero. Sustain a chord or note and rapidly flip the toggle switch.

Here's a famous example...at 0:42 and 0:47

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 09:35 PM, May 28th, 2019)

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May 28th, 2019 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

Am I missing something with that video link???

I get Dom Irrera, no Les Paul there...


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Planet Peegoo

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May 28th, 2019 07:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well THAT was weird! Link fixed.

Pay no attention to the upside-down Jag-Stang Pete Buck is playing in the vid. In the studio he used a Les Paul to track this tune.

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 09:38 PM, May 28th, 2019)

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