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bluzcat
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Sep 11th, 2019 10:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

I would like to record/edit some ideas, and get my feet wet recording but I’m not sure where to begin. Equipment-wise I have a GDEC 3 and a Mustang III which can connect to my iMac via USB. I have other amps but no microphones. DAW wise I have Garage Band. I know YouTube is a great resource but just curious what the FDP has to say. Thanks!

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Sep 11th, 2019 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile  

An audio interface like one of the USB Focusrite boxes come bundled with lite versions of recording software. A condenser mic like a Rode NT1-A will get you there for vocals and acoustic guitars.

It's a start with about a $400 investment. Maybe call Sweetwater and check compatibility with your iMac.

Good luck!

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Sep 11th, 2019 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

I will add that as a home recordist, Toontrack's "EZDrummer" has really opened my production world up. You can go mad with the expansion modules but the on board drums, beats and sounds are quite good.
There is a considerable learning curve, but if a dunderhead like me can do it, anyone can. Tenacity!

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Sep 11th, 2019 01:36 PM   Edit   Profile  

A few months ago I went from only recording "live" stuff using a USB mic (blue snowball) to more studio-style "building tracks" using a Rode NT1-A combined with a Focusrite 2i2 and it was a massive improvement even with my very humble DAW setup (cheap old laptop and audacity).



bluzcat
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Sep 11th, 2019 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks guys, how about the Scarlett series?

Like this one?

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Sep 11th, 2019 03:52 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yep, that'll do. I had one, sold it on Reverb when I got my Eleven Rack. Worked well.

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Sep 11th, 2019 04:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

The Focusrite Scarlett series are great. They are on the third generation now. Very good for recording on a budget.

ejm

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Sep 12th, 2019 09:25 AM   Edit   Profile  

Time out.

Unless you want to use a microphone (and maybe even if you do), TO GET YOUR FEET WET I think you have everything that you need.

I'm no expert, but doesn't Garage Band have drums?
Your amps connect to the Mac via USB, so why do you need to buy an interface?

I have heard that the Scarletts are real good.
But unless you want to spend some more money, you may have enough to get you started.


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Sep 12th, 2019 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

I recently set mine up with the Focusrite Scarlett. It was an easy hook up.

Focusrite tech support helped me with some problems I was having getting the Ableton to authorize.

I'm up and running with Ableton *Live 10 Lite* and can learn the basics of the DAW. I intend to upgrade to one of the more complete programs sometime in the future. Busy sinking $$$ into my Camaro at the moment.

I have the 18i8 running out of a pair of Yamaha HS8 studio monitors.

I'm happy with every aspect of my set up for now.

My little corner studio w/18i8 ... :)

bluzcat
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Sep 12th, 2019 10:19 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks all, to be clear, by sharing what equipment I have I was looking for everything from “you have all you need” to “pick up this” as well as any tutorial suggestions. I appreciate all the responses so far.

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Sep 12th, 2019 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a scarlett listed in the for sale items but I just want add that if your amp plugs into usb you really wont need it. You will have latency with the scarlett and none with the direct link.

I have garage band on my I's but I use Mixcraft on the pc, like you I have been learning this and like I said if your garage band will see the interface from the mustang you are set.

Achase4u
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Sep 12th, 2019 01:08 PM   Edit   Profile  

"You will have latency with the scarlett and none with the direct link."

The hardware direct monitoring that this interface, and most others have, eliminates this issue.

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Sep 12th, 2019 06:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

"The hardware direct monitoring that this interface, and most others have, eliminates this issue."

Really? I have been or at least was using mine with direct monitoring on and still had the latency issue, it may be worth it to plug it back in and what is going on. Either way, the Katana works too well to look back.


Achase4u
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Sep 12th, 2019 09:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

The only latency that should occur through hardware direct monitoring is the time it takes the analog waveform to go through the converter and back out the headphone jack. Which is a very short amount of time compared to a 1-3ms latency you get if monitoring through your software. Did you have direct monitoring on, but also your DAW automatically turns on track monitoring when the track is armed to record? This would cause issues like apparent latency. When I monitor through my software, I turn my buffer down to 32 or 64 samples.

It's actually about as fast or faster to listen through a microphone and monitoring in the software as it is to sit 6ft from an amp and play live. The general idea is 1ft of sound travel is equal to 1ms of delay. If you can get your latency down to a ms or 3, you are cooking pretty good.

If you are having audible issues with latency I would think something else is going on settings wise.

frogman
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Sep 13th, 2019 07:49 AM   Edit   Profile  

I am going to plug it back in and see what is happening, although I am technical (Career in IT) I lack in this area and always have for some reason.

I was astounded when I plugged the Katana in and had the result I had and in fact gave up on the Scarlett interface and recording all together.

Achase4u
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Sep 13th, 2019 08:03 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hmm. I wonder what the issue is. I hope you find the right setting though and it remedies your latency woes.

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Sep 13th, 2019 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

I could restate that the Focusrite tech support was outstanding.

If you were to have any problems at all ... my experience told me they will happily get you pointed in the right direction without delay (no pun intended). 😜

reverendrob
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Sep 14th, 2019 03:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

In this day and age with even half-modern hardware, if you're having "latency" issues on a raw single track recording or with low track/plugin counts....there's something significantly wrong with your setup.

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