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Southern Calif

"Help, I'm a a rock": Amelia Earhart
Sep 15th, 2019 05:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

It was a routine transatlantic flight from Germany to Mexico. Routine that is, until the pilot knocked over a cup of coffee that spilled in his lap and onto the plane's control panel.

The Airbus folks had put in cup holders for cockpit crews in the Airbus A330, but failed to anticipate a vendor providing cups that were too small to be accommodated.

The pilot's Stella Liebeck moment came when he knocked the un-lidded cup off a tray.

(You'll recall that Stella was the gal who caused McDonald's to put warnings on its coffee cups warning that hot coffee is... you know ... hot)

Unlike Stella, the pilot was able to get at least some of the coffee onto the control panel, where it melted a couple of buttons and disrupted flight communications. Smoke in the cockpit had the crew putting on oxygen masks.

Luckily both the pilot and co-pilot were deaf, and were able to communicate with sign language. (just kidding)

The Condor flight was diverted to Ireland where the crew were able to get more coffee and a hair dryer to tackle the damp control panel problem.

According to Condor, serving open top coffee cups to their flight crews is not uncommon, but they did announce their plan to put Stella Liebeck bobble heads on all A330 control panels as a cautionary reminder.

Attention aircraft baristas

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Sep 15th, 2019 05:43 AM   Edit   Profile  

I wonder if the pilots further endangered the flight by engaging in some of


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If irritation occurs

discontinue use.
Sep 15th, 2019 06:22 AM   Edit   Profile  

A classic case of engineers and designers not talking with end users of a product. I'm also guessing Airbus never lets their design & eng team out of the basement.

If they did--they'd know airline coffee cups are about the same size as the little paper cups everyone had in a dispenser in their bathrooms in the late 1960s.

And double demerits to Airbus Ind for allowing Apple to design their control consoles.

Q: Not spill-proof?

A: Apple.

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The older the violin

the sweeter the music.
Sep 15th, 2019 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

Last (I hope!) time I flew on an Airbus plane, I texted my son (a Boeing engineer) a photo from my seat before we took off.

"Been nice knowing you," he replied.

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Houston, TX

Sep 17th, 2019 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

“"Been nice knowing you," he replied.”

I’m assuming they are not making such jokes after the 737 MAX fiasco.

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Banning, CA

I now have four seasons!
Sep 17th, 2019 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

Airbus the fly by unshielded wire aircraft.
Thier engineer must have been Alfred E. Newman.(RIP)

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Being defenseless

does not make you more safe
Sep 17th, 2019 08:15 PM   Edit   Profile  

The "MAX" crashes were 100% pilot and or airline error.

Boeing's culpability is not installing a warning light as standard equipment.

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Houston, TX

Sep 18th, 2019 06:11 AM   Edit   Profile  

They are seen as culpable enough to be having to make an entire industry whole for that lack of a warning light. Pretty bad decision making, don’t you think?

I honestly don’t care what aircraft I take (other than maybe avoiding a Fokker 100, but I don’t think you can still run into one of these). I choose my flights based on convenience, so I really have no dog in this fight.

If you look up death rates per miles flown of most models of either manufacturer you’ll find the numbers are very similar.

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Southern Calif

"Help, I'm a a rock": Amelia Earhart
Sep 18th, 2019 06:39 AM   Edit   Profile  

The Boeing 888 Quantum Max, which will be released next year, to coincide with Tim Apple's next iPhone, will be the safest airplane ever built.

Being quantum, it has the ability to be in two places at the same time. So once you board the plane through the front entrance, you just keep walking and exit through the back, because you have already reached your destination.

As you wait to exit, feel free to take a selfie with Squattie, the Scottish engineer, who provided the auxillary power that made your flight/not flight possible.

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