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dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 23rd, 2017 04:51 PM        

I've become interested in getting a Bass VI. Fender has them on their site (Squier Vintage Modified Bass VI). The Pawnshop and '60s models on eBay are way out of my reach.<br /> <br /> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the Squier version.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?



reverendrob

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Apr 24th, 2017 02:20 AM        

It'll do fine. I've had one since they first came out.<br /> <br /> Intonates fine, providing you're experienced at doing offset setups or have a tech who can do the same (and not talking about somebody who can set up a run of the mill Tele/Strat/LP).<br /> <br /> Does what a Bass VI does.<br /> <br /> I added a guitar synth pickup on mine, but that didn't change anything other than add a couple screw holes.



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 24th, 2017 05:23 AM        

Thanks, reverendbob. Yes, I have a tech who is highly experienced.<br /> <br /> I have read a lot of comments that the bridge on these are lousy and best replaced with a Staytrem (which is apparently a drop in). Any thoughts on that?



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Apr 24th, 2017 08:05 AM        

The internet seems to not know how to set up an offset.<br /> <br /> Don't replace it unless there's a legit problem with it. <br /> <br /> If I can intonate it just fine and good enough for flawless guitar synth tracking *with* the stock strings....without replacing it...there's nothing wrong at all.



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 24th, 2017 08:09 AM        

Thanks again, reverendbob. My tech has built basses for me and has his own line of boutique basses; I'm sure he'd have no problem with offsets. This is good news; I'd hate to shell out $80 for something unnecessary. This is a relatively cheap item and I want to keep it that way.



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 24th, 2017 08:09 AM        

And sorry, I misread your handle, reverendROB.



Te 52



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Apr 24th, 2017 11:28 AM        

The Squier Bass VI is OK. I found the original .025-.084 strings to be too light at the low end, floppy and rubber-bandy. A set of La Bella .026-.095 Bass VI strings was a big improvement.



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 24th, 2017 03:17 PM        

Thanks, Te 52. I looked at one at Sam Ash today and was pretty underwhelmed (had never seen one in person). I assume the strings were the stock you describe because I definitely felt they were too light on the low end. I use the heaviest strings available (.115 E) on all my basses, so this seemed very guitar-like. I have to think about this...



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Apr 24th, 2017 07:37 PM        

30" scale is never going to get close to the tension of a 34" scale, let alone with .115s.<br /> <br /> Heaviest I use on 34"s is 104.<br /> <br /> VI I'm happy with the stock strings if that's what I have on hand, if I go Labella (the only stainless game in town these days), It's a custom set with a .96 and heavier on the rest (ironically, I want more punch on the high end, and don't care about the flop).



ilan



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Apr 25th, 2017 07:15 AM        

> A set of La Bella .026-.095 Bass VI strings was <br /> > a big improvement.<br /> <br /> Yep, in my experience too. The VI wants flats and that's her true voice.



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 25th, 2017 07:42 AM        

Thanks for all the replies. I still haven't had a chance to hear this through an amp (too much traffic at the store yesterday).<br /> <br /> reverendrob,<br /> <br /> If it's not too much trouble, can you share the gauges of your custom set?<br /> <br /> And do you agree that flats are preferable as others have suggested?



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Apr 25th, 2017 04:33 PM        

My take on the Bass VI is: It's not really a bass. It's not really a guitar. It's sort of in between. You want the pitch of a bass with the twang and clarity of a guitar. Thus its classic use either as a tic-tac bass, doubling the line played by a "real" bass and adding richness and brightness to the tone; or to get those very low, but distinctly guitar-like "spaghetti western" tones.<br /> <br /> So I don't favor flats myself on the VI, I think they dull the tone too much. The .026-.095 strings I was referring to are the LaBella 767-6N roundwounds.<br /> <br /> jm2¢



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 25th, 2017 06:17 PM        

Thanks, Te 52.<br /> <br /> >as a tic-tac bass, doubling the line played by a "real" bass and adding richness and brightness to the tone;<br /> <br /> This how I'd like to use it.<br /> <br /> Although this sounds interesting:<br /> <br /> >>get those very low, but distinctly guitar-like "spaghetti western" tones.<br /> <br /> Thanks for the advice on the strings as well. I'm not a fan of flats in general and only have them on my Gibson EB-1 and my Fender Mustang.<br /> <br /> I just have to decide whether I can get used to the string spacing, which seemed, well, very weird. (Like you said, it's neither a guitar nor a bass.)



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Apr 25th, 2017 08:41 PM        

"...I just have to decide whether I can get used to the string spacing..."<br /> <br /> Yes, I think they would have had a better instrument if it had a wider nut width; at least 1-3/4", maybe as much as 2". Nobody is going to play full chords on such an instrument, so having more space between the strings would have made a lot of sense.



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Apr 26th, 2017 01:35 AM        

"If it's not too much trouble, can you share the gauges of your custom set?<br /> <br /> And do you agree that flats are preferable as others have suggested?"<br /> <br /> 28 - 40 - 54 - 62 - 80 - 96 is my "reference", I go down as needed based on what's in stock (and on the stainless rounds, it varies a lot it seems), usually don't have to go more than .02 or so down.<br /> <br /> Flats aren't an option on customs, which save somehow over half off the normal Labella pricing - it was $19-20 IIRC.<br /> <br /> I have flats on my Jazz, anything else just isn't what I want.<br /> <br /> For VI, I want growl and punch, and the punch isn't quite there on the ones with flats I've played. Stainless ones would probably help a *little* in that regard, but I like the overall brighter of stainless to begin with..so...<br /> <br /> "Nobody is going to play full chords on such an instrument, so having more space between the strings would have made a lot of sense."<br /> <br /> It's one of the only instruments I do that on with my abnormally sized fingers/tips. :)<br /> <br /> Also, the spacing works providing you're already playing with a pick, which I also do! <br /> <br />



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 26th, 2017 07:34 AM        

Thanks again for all the replies and advice.<br /> <br /> I play with a pick and don't have much interest in chords on this.<br /> <br /> I think I have to revisit it and play through an amp. When I checked it out that opportunity wasn't an option and it just "felt" weird.



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Apr 26th, 2017 08:39 AM        

Yea, the VI is certainly not an acoustic instrument!<br /> <br /> Find an amp!



dg27



Long Island City, NY

Apr 26th, 2017 04:00 PM        

In New York, they do not stock them in GC (which I avoid like The Clap anyway). Sam Ash has two of them but the day I went to check it out others were checking out other basses and it was too chaotic.<br /> <br /> I am hoping I'll like this when I do get to try it out for real.



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Apr 27th, 2017 12:21 PM        

I bought one on a whim, found the stock strings too light (which caused the low-E buzz that some folks talk about. Played it for a bit, threw it in a case and then sold it 6 months later. I never connected with it, so off it went!



Te 52



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Apr 27th, 2017 01:53 PM        

The Squier Bass VI should also make a very nice baritone guitar, tuned B to b or A to a. I was concerned that standard bari strings might not be long enough. The Squier's 30" scale length, long afterlength beyond the bridge, and 6-on-a-side tuners make for a *very* long high e string, but it turns out the D'Addario baritone high e is *just* long enough. <br /> <br /> I gotta try this.



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